My goodness...I grew up Catholic...and I know that Christ is God...but he was also a man...just as these other names were so....you say the Bible clearly states....but the Bible clearly asks for kindness and acceptance... and a slew of other things that many are willing to accept but not practice... Jesus was kind to the Samaritan woman when he asked her for a drink and she said that Jews were not to speak to Samaritans and he told her that it didn't matter. For me it says the same thing...it doesn't matter...don't you think Jesus wants to get as many people to go and talk to God as humanly possible...if I were him I would think that he wouldn't care what way you get there as long as you went and talked to his father...Jesus wasn't God...the Christ...the beautiful consciousness that was within him...that was...that he could say that he and his Father were one...because He had come in union with that Christ Consciousness... I would love to talk to Jesus for just 15 minutes...and ask him....I just can't believe him ever wanting us to argue and be nit-picky over him...isn't love and spirituality what were all searching for in the end?
You have stated that you do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth was the only man to be Christed and receive Christ consciousness. Yet, what is your belief founded on. Certainly not the Bible. And as I said many times before, the Bible can be trusted, and has been verified from it's historical evidence, and it's fulfilled prophecies. And the Bible states, in first Timothy 2:5,6 For there is one God and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all which is the testimony given at the proper time. According to the scriptures, Buddha, Krishna, or Allah, will not fit the bill. The Bible teaches that on the day of judgement, many will come before Christ and will say Lord, Lord, have we not done many wonderful things in your name. And Christ will look at them and say, depart from me I never knew you. Buddha, Krishna, or Allah, never died on the cross for the sins of the world. None of them ever fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament. Jesus Christ alone, is the only mediator between man and God. Anything beyond this understanding comes from your own imagination, and not the Word of God.
Jesus Christ was God, for the Bible states, He was in the world, THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM, and the world knew Him not. It was God alone that made the world.
What? I never said that God didn't make the world...I think he did too...a bit more between the lines of the Creation story...but I def. still think God made it...
hey good to be back! haha , ya we have to be like jesus or "follow jesus's path"... but I guess some interpret it as "take his compassion , love, kindness and tolerance but you don't have to return it to Him and to everyone else"... well i hope/lets hope that is just "some" and not many.
I was responding to your statement that you said of Jesus. And I quote. Jesus Christ was not God. The Bible states that Jesus Christ made the world. Another words, Jesus Christ was God.
I believe Jesus Christ is the Creator of all things. And He loves all mankind and has stretched out His hand to all of us. All who reach out to Christ will be saved. All who reject Gods gift of salvation have made their own choice. That is why Jesus asks the question. How shall they neglect so great a salvation?
I think some people believe to allow others to believe a lie is tolerance, and an act of kindness is to let another man speak a falsehood and not challenge him. And compassion is to look the other way when a man lives a life of error. Jesus always pointed to the right way to go, even when many did not like the words He spoke. And Jesus said, that the world would resist His message and the people who spoke it, but then He said, remember, the world hated me first. Believe me, if Jesus were in this world today, there are many on this fourm who would put Him right back on that cross again. And I can say that with confidence, because of the way they resist the Bible.
I think you are right about Jesus being crucified if he came again to-day. Where I disagree is over your particular interpretation of the Bible.
False Interpretation is often suggested by some, if they don't like what the Bible often clearly states. Yet it really depends on which particular part of the Bible we are speaking about.
Yes ofcourse you have to be tolerant of people who might be following a lie- if it does not hurt anyone, you have no authority to say what is right and what is wrong... God is the one who has the authority to say what is right and wrong, not you. All you can do is follow God and be a good christian, not try to tell others that they are following a lie. We are children of God, we have no right to be the parent- parenting is what God does. He has certain paths set for certain people and they will go in it until he decides to change it, you have no say... you do what you have to do and stay tolerant and compassionate.
Also the reason why we have no right to be the "parent" is that we have limited vision, we see only some things and many of the things are hidden from our perceptions... this is the difference between us and God. God is all knowing and all seeing... so he is the supreme and he is the only one who has the right to say if something is right or wrong/truth or lie.
Well we could start with the bits that totally fail to allude in any sense to America as you claim. That is an example of an interpretation I find unacceptable. With the new testament it doesn't really need any interpretation, except perhaps revelation. The OT is full of stuff that can be constructed in various ways. The problem is that some have their own agendas which they seek to impose on the text, and thus read into it meanings which just aren't intended. But please understand that I'm not against the Bible in some way. I just think that really, the valuable part is the Gospels. Thats all one would need to come to know about Christ, and that is all that matters in the end.
It was Jesus who said that we are the salt of the earth. Christ also commanded us to go into all the world and preach the Gospel. Jesus said that if you have a bright light you do not hide it under a basket, but you allow it to shine so all men will see. Christians have been given the great commision to spread the Gospel to the world. We not only have the right to do this, we are commanded by Jesus Christ Himself to spread His truth. Christ asks the question, the fields are white unto harvest, where are the reapers? A truly compassionate person will not stand by and watch a man destroy his body and soul while remaining quiet. He will point the way to Gods salvation, which I have seen many times and this act saved both the man physically and spiritually.
It doesn't become the status of a true child of God to be denied the right to exercise judgement informed by the spirit. God doesn't want us to become empty headed imbeciles who won't point the finger at lies, wrong, or evil when we see it. Spiritual discernment and authority are gifts of the spirit. I agree compassion is necessary, but the whole point is that through the power of God people can change the paths they are on, no matter how set they seem to be in their ways.
Well keep in mind there is such a thing in scripture as duel prophecy. Take the prophecies of Christ coming. There are two examples of His coming. One He is described as a mighty King, the other as a man of sorrows. The Jews put the cart before the horse and went with the Great King. Thats where they made their mistake. The bits that you are talking about might fall into that catagory. The Prophecies of the New Testament and the Old in some areas are almost identical in the wording. As a matter of fact without the Old Testament prophecies, and the New Testament prophecies combined neither prophecy will make any sense.
Ok - but actually, I'm not really very focused on prophecies. For me, the Bible reveals Christ as the Son of God, and that is enough. If God wanted us to know the future in detail, He would have revealed it quite openly. The fact that 'ye know not the hour at which the Lord cometh' is meant to keep us on our toes, so to speak. But just one point - only a mighty King, in fact the mightiest could have withstood Christ's sorrow. So both were right - he was a King and a man of sorrows. And God, of course.