School Shooting in Broward County, FL

No, I don't how much it is. How much is it? Regardless, no matter what the cost is, I would contribute for the safety of my daughter by paying my share in taxes to fund this security requirement. And you mean banning all magazines that hold more than six rounds, not guns. But why only 6 rounds? What's the rationale behind that?

 

the issue with guns isnt limited to school shootings.

There have been mass shootings in a movie theatre, concert, on a college campus.

Then of course we have to take into account accidental gun deaths, suicides, homocide by gun, etc

Also just to point out, my high school installed metal detectors after Columbine. In the main entrance only. It had multiple entrances and it was against fire code to lock the other entrances. When some schools are suffering from mold problems and lack basic supplies for students it seems like a misapproperation of funds to put metal detectors in every entrance of every school. I can see this going in the direction of schools in high income areas being protected, leaving schoola in low income areas vulnerable .

Better to prevent the shooter from having a gun in the first place imo

 

Nah, just go back to muskets! Single shot, at least 30 seconds to reload.

This is the type of gun that was available when the 2nd amendment was drafted. I'm sure that when this was passed by Congress, I believe they would have never passed it based on today's access to assault rifles! JMHO, and, likely wishful thinking.

 

Yet, you're still posting about them!

 

Enough is enough with our gun fetish, which only serves to make weak men feel powerful.

And if you’re first reaction to gets getting murdered is liberals will take my guns then you suck ad a human being

 

Haha

But not for thought provoking or discussion - triggering reasons. (yes, I can't help myself. Too much free time )

 

So as it happens I went to a City Council meeting last night. Before they heard the public vote on existing topics, they discussed the steps they are taking now to address this.

Now I'll preclude this by saying I live in a very safe community and excellent schools and fiscal responsibility. So our needs may not reflect other locations needs.

But here is what they informed us as they are doing now that did not require any citizen votes at this stage. They are taking funds from both the PD and the Board of Education budgets and reallocating funds to place in our case 3 what they called School Resource Officers in each school. In our case 3 schools. Further they are purchasing some pretty good looking and effective door barricade systems. They showed a video of them . Takes about 5 seconds to secure a door from the inside. Teachers will be trained on their use. They look very easy to use.

They said that they may be proposing additional taxes to pay for metal detectors in each school. They also said that they are not considering arming teachers at this time and couldn't do so without a vote.

So that is an example of how some places are responding as quickly as they can.

 

^ They're all bandaids though. The illness is not healed

 

I don't know if you saw my discussion about SRO. We have 14 officers for 51 schools.

 

It's all new to us. We have 3 per school and 3 schools. The part I thought was good was the barricading system . Very easy to use and made a door virtually impossible to breach unless you cut through it somehow.

And we tend to have strong law enforcement here in general. So they are coming up with a fast response system. We don't have SWAT or any of that just a good PD that represents us well.

 

are you seriously arguing the effectiveness of a long range high power rifle picking off sidewalkers vs a high power short range rifle with a bump stock firing into a crowd of thousands shoulder to shoulder?

 

i think i see the problem now

when you stated "So imagine what he would have done with an AR 15 and a bump stock."....i had assumed you meant the tower shooter when you said "he"...(because you quoted it)...now i can only assume you meant this school kid

so yes...he would most likely have killed a lot more with a bump stock (if youre talking about the kid)

and no..he would most likely have killed a lot less with a bump stock ar 15 (if youre talking about the tower shooter)

 

different targets..different locations different guns different facts

different opinions

 

So the crisis actor conspiracy theorists idiots have been out in full force the last couple of days.

Not on HF thank goodness but elsewhere on the interwebz

Oh! And I see the book Behold a Pale Horse is gaining popularity due to a passage in it about how school shootings will be used to disarm the populace

I was practically raised on this book. My older brother was a right wing Christian conspiracy theorist before it was trendy to be one. I just dont even know what to think when I see people I respect actually taking this dumb book seriously. People I know who are generally left of center and who arent religious are all of a sudden quoting the ramblings of a right wing conspiracy theorist who bases his conspiracies on the book of Revelations

Facepalm. Jesus I really am going to have to move out of the US one day.