schizophrenia

if people have a serious mental health issue that can be benifited by medicine should they use it... well the answer is pretty obvious to me

 

fuck you. I think uneducated, insensitive little fucks like yourself should go drown themselves

 

hmmm so would that put you in the half that aren't having sex?...

 

l work in mental health and yeap they need it along with alot of support.... it's just so unfortunate there are many side effects with medications.... Many folks with Schizophrenia when magaged well and suported by the health systems lead 'so called' normal lifes..

 

I really think schizophrenia is just another way of viewing the world, despite what the shrinks might say.

Many schizophrenics are actually geniuses and talented artists.

If a person is a threat to themselves and other people, they probably do need to be medicated for reasons of safety.

However, not every case of schizophrenia is full-blown. Some people can have mild schizophrenia and still be able to function relatively normally, even without medication.

We see schizophrenia as "abnormal," simply because it doesn't conform with our version of conditioned normalcy. How do we know the schizophrenics really aren't the sane ones? You never know. They certainly see the world in a much different way, and they might not be able to conform to the vapid, materialistic 9 to 5 lifestyle of your average Joe-American, but does that make them abnormal? Not in my opinion.

I have met a few schizophrenics, and they're far more interesting than "normal" people.

 

meds. are just another form of brain-washing there are many ways to help someone without altering there mind if they are hurting them selves or others

maybe but i still dont agree with it try to find the inner person and work from there dont just look at they outer core cause in that case most of us would be in a mental institute and most of us are beautiful and wonderful people

 

They either need medicine or to be locked up

 

so farie your answer is either drug them or throw them away thats pretty messed up

 

abram hoffer has written a few books that cover orthomolecular psychiatry. it's real, it works. it's more effective with schizophrenics is they're diagnosed early and put onto an orthomolecular regimen right away, but even for people who've been sick for a while (years), if they get onto an orthomolecular program, they can cut down on allopathic meds (which have terrible permanent side effects).

 

man lotus blossum, i thought you was runnin away from home to be a rainbow,,,er um hippy or ummmm street person or something,,, doesnt look like yer doin a very good job at it so far...


as for the meds,,, most nope,,, just learn to fukkin deal with life,,,, as with most of the so called mental disorders out there,,, n i hafta agree with the older hippy lady woman,,,, put them outta our misery iffin they cant deal with life

 

Even if that we're a joke that would be the most horribly ignorant thing I had ever heard.

Can't deal with life? How about people with cancer? Should they just be shot?

schizophrenia is a severe neurolgical issue, often caused by an organic abnormality such as a brain tumor... Why don't you just spit on everyone who has a tumor...

These poor people have differences in brain structure which some reasearches have suggested are problems with dopamine interractions, as symptoms can be related to dopamine psychosis in amphetmine addicts.

Dellusions and hallucinations are often a result.

Newer classes of anti-psychotics such as clozapines help restore the balence of dopamine in the brain with less side effects.

Your contempt for the ill is revolting, and monstrous.

I don't see how anyone could say something so thoughtless.

 

Why don't you help yourself to a fucking medical journal before posting.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/

 

no it isnt monstrous, ludicrous or anything like that,,, in fact it is a very well thought out philosophy on it... least in my oppinion,,,,,

having worked in the medical field for a few years and living with a few so called"mental" opatients,,, has nothing but reaffirmed many of my believes in "mental illness" ,, note mental there i did not say cancer, i did not say tumor,,,, i said mental and in sayin mental i mean just that ,,,, mental doesnt mean brought on by another illness my dear young lad.... they are totally and completely different in nature,,,


and yes i said deal with life,,,, may i ask just what psych meds you are on ,?AS by your responses in the thread i can give a pretty edumacated guess that you indeed are on some sort of med.... NOTE,,, i am not have never been n will never be,,, i have had to deal with the hand life gives me,, good bad or fukkin ugly,, and my final thought on that is yes if indeed i come to the point where i can not be a productive member in society,,, (well my society,,, not babble on,,, cuz i dont care for that society,,, which unfortunately,,,altho this is a "hippy" site,,,, i can make another edumacated guess n say that atleast 70% of the folks that post here are no more a hippy than i am a beauty queen model....)or life then YESSSSSSS indeed put me outta the misery of myself and those around me!!!!

 

I'm in pristine health, and don't need to be on any medication. The only thing I take is asprin and vitamins. I've been 'dealt' a pretty good hand, but that doesn't mean I'm callous enough to wish for the death of those less fortunate.

Who the hell are you to determine somebody elses worth to society just because they're sick.

Something tells me you've never heard the word eugenics before, but thats what you're suggesting, you nazi. And I use Nazi in the truest since of the word.

From two posts I can tell your a terrible human being, congratulations.

 

Yes somebody with this problem should have medicine.:sunglasse

 

dilli... i agree with you that people are overmedicated but a lot of psychologists and medical doctors alike agree that schizophrenia almost certainly has a physical aka medical reason. the brain (the size of the frontal lobe, for example... if i remember correctly) is a lot longer... this illness cannot be caused by environmental, it is all genetic.

 

This thread makes me mad.

 

i dont think medication is the answer. our community is very condesending and very damaging toward these kinds of individuals. because of our pre-concieved notions concerning the nature of reality and the psychology of how we feel the human expirience should be.
look to the past, and how various cultures dealt with these individuals, with respect, understanding, and support, the mentally ill turned out to be a great help and held a powerful possition in the community. im talking about the role of the shaman here... the path to heaven is a very personal one and often requires a man to travel through the depths of hell, it is a natural initiation proccess guided by teh gaian logos...dont sell these individuals short, simply because you lack understanding of their reality. and dont assume yours is more valid.

 

uh, i really dont think that is the case but when a person gets delusions about killing me or them selves, maybe they should be helped. huh?

 

indeed they should be helped...but i dont think mind numbing medication is always the answer...though in our community somtimes it is nessesary, as the damage has already been done, and the road back is far too dangerous to traverse.