Schizophrenia

Different takes on the same one - but yes, we'll have to agree to differ.

 

No your point is clear. I was just eagerly pointing out myself how clearly I think that you are wrong Perspective and reality are for me (and Bill also it seems) evidently not the same. We may all live kind of in our own reality due to our own individual perspectives but that doesn't exclude the obviousness that we are all in a bigger reality that we share. I explained with my highway example.

 

Yyyaaahhh .... kind of. Only the highway thing limps quite a bit. [sharedmedia=gallery:images:70378]

 

I wonder what you would think if that hypothetical event would have happened and you're limping out of the hospital :bobby: How did that car enter my reality??

 

Ever hear the story of the 6 blind men and the elephant? One felt the trunk and said 'an elephant is like a snake'. Another felt the ears and described them, the third felt the tusks and said 'an elephant is a hard, pointed thing etc etc.

Same elephant, different perceptions of it. Had the elephant got angry and decided to stomp them all, their perception would make no difference. What you'd end up with is a bloody pulp.

 

That's the point. Until the actual impact nothing happens. What if I just changed lanes half a second before impact without knowing the other car was there? You're already think about me coming OUT of the hospital when the accident hasn't even happened yet.

So much for your reality. [sharedmedia=gallery:images:70378]

 

It even said in that post that it was hypothetical. You're clutching at straws man

 

A question which is very difficult to answer.

All I can say is that I'm reasonably sure there's something going on. As you say, there are different levels and we can't be conscious of them all. There may well be levels we as humans have yet to gain any inkling of.

Since I haven't read Deepak's book, I can't really form any opinion about the authenticity of the claims made. But perhaps within the 'new age' there has been something of a glut of people claiming to be in touch with, or to channel a whole range of alleged entities. I think it's necessary to be very careful before accepting such claims. A lot of this stuff may have more to do with creative imagination than any actual contact with other dimensions.

 

...but wouldn't that mean that anyone who ever lived has also been conscious since before the dawn of the universe? Honestly, if I were at all clever, I'd think that you were resorting to name calling and violent abuse towards someone you consider below you, someone you don't consider has a full consciousness...

If I were clever, I'd say you've moved past the defensive stage and gone offensive already

 

Because, as P.T. Barnum used to say, there's one born evry minute (sucker, that is). The main things that distinguish Depak from the ordinary schizophrenic are: I doubt that Depak really believes the delusions he sells to others; and Depak makes a lot more money out of his delusions.

 

But all of this is for the "calling" to be just friends for the middle of the night. I'm still trying to work out if the soul exists. That way I don't have to wake up meaninglessly at no special time in the night. Perhaps it is not for the CALLING; it is for the AFFIRMATION of the CALLING. That way it is to be meaningful for intention at one another.

 

i hear the tragic schizoid complain of a reality that is being unethicly imposed .

 

another great post, thanks sheela, but one problem, i just dont see your point.

theres a guy who may or may not have scizophrenia and he claims to be a spirit manifest named baba, and Deepak Chopra believes him.

so whats your point? that most poele wont belive him?

also your origional premis is flawed:

does that mean when there was no life in the early history of the earth, there was no reality? that doesnt make sense.

i think you mean that your own personal consciousness creates your personal perception of reality.