Yep! I agree 100%! (except for the fact, that I was a little older when I first tried psychedelics...)
i didnt go any psychedelics untill i was 15 unless you count weed which i wouldnt, i never did meth just amphemines when i was 13 then stoped and started again at 14 then stoped havent had any speed in over a year, coke was more a hey my firends got some blow why the fuck not,i did it friday and saturday night, then the next week he had more so i did it again after that i said fuck it not again it was cool and all to have the experience but not sometihng im into, im more of a vistionary person thats why i love weed so much, to bad i cant smoke it anymore, im think of trying shroom but i might just wait ,i dont know if im ready for that yet, ive also noticed though the use of drug that useing drugs just to get "fucked up" is stupied and a wast of mind, i hate people who are like yo me and my firends smoked so much weed and drank so much,the cops showed so we had to run from the cops casue... i want to expand my mind, wish people would act like fucking animals for once and stop being so damn human
I just wish the majority of the population all of a sudden got smart. Well while i do not see that happening I do see all kinds of new problems starting everyday on earth. Then I look at people look to expand themselves with psychedelics, and they are normally just trying to better themselves, or others, or just minding thier own business. Then I look and I see Politicians and people who have been molded into hypocritic lifestyles, and generally they are the ones that are making decisions that split up the populations views, wasting money, and killing our earth. If that is not a reason to become a hippy im unsure of what is.
Yea, the problem is that the real good people KNOW that babylon is evil and being a part of it is evil, so it's unlikely that people like us will ever make a real difference in the current political world. Politics, think about it, the science of power, what kind of self-respecting individual wants to control all sorts of power? Why do people want to have power over other people? Mostly because their persona is corrupt...
i do not consider myself free until i am no longer bound by any goverment's laws/terrortories. flags are a sign of our division not our unity you fools!
Then you'll be dead before you're ever free. A better way to look at it is to live by good moral rules. For example, smoking pot is a rule babylon enforces that no good soul would... I'm not saying everyone should smoke trees, some people don't like to. I'm just saying that good people with half a brain know that laws like these don't protect anyone.
i do agree one hundred percent. Same reason marijuana is backtracking on its legality issue. Nobody has the kahunas to stand up and say what they believe in. I just find it hard to believe how consumer style everything has gotten. We are using our natural resources far too much. Anyway back to the point. Ifthere was another psychedelic drug explosion it would help people as a whole. or maybe cause civil war, but who knows. I just think its funny being someone like myself having felt everyday life without psychedelics. I know what it feels like to be sober and myself, and I also know what it feels like to be under the influence of a psychedelic. People that have never tried anything like that generally have negative views on psychedelics without even knowing what it does and feels like. First hand research is a far better tool than all the documentation the gov. has that they give to the pencil necked geeks to make laws with.
When Bush was re-elected I was sort of convinced there would be civil war eventually... lol.. I guess I am sort of a crackpot, but the division in the US right now is craaazzzyy.
its nice to see some discussion on this topic. either way, we all seem to inherently know that we are all heading for one hell of a shitstorm. i feel psych's can both help us prepare for this, get us through and then assist in the healing/rebuilding process. the legality of it all is my gravest concern at this time. i like to think i can educate myself on these matters further by studying history and relating human cultural tendencies to the current time. look at the roman empire for example. the people eating psych's right now and browsing and participating on this and similar boards will be the ones that save us all. i advise all to consume more entheogens and meditate upon the ramifications of a global meltdown. there is still hope, nothing is lost.
I think any serious contemplation needs to be done while straight. A lot of people are quick to tote entheogenic effects of drugs that make you trip- while I'm not even sure I believe in the meaning of the word "entheogen." The drugs will promote certain modes of thinking, but when you're down from the high is the time to really do your contemplating. Think about it, tripping is sort of like a drug-induced psychosis... Do you want to do serious thinking, or make serious decisions while in a state of 'psychosis'? I dunno.. that's just my take on it.
LSD can make you think in interesting ways. To give just one example, I am an atheist, and on LSD I thought about whether I should rethink my stance given my bad trip. I then thought whether there should be a "calculus" as to the benefits and consequences of believing there is a God: if you are wrong about believing in God, you die anyways. But if you are right, you are granted eternal Heaven. Your chances of being right may be 1 in a gazillion, but that 1 in a gazillion is worth it if you are promised eternal bliss if it is to come true. Additionally, there is little cost in believing (you go to church, make some prayers, etc. once in a while). The universe is so mysterious and we as humans can be sure of very few things. Sort of like Pascal's wager. It made sense for me for the first time. I haven't thought much about it since then, but maybe I will contemplate the issue some time in the future.
Exactly... you had sort of a revelation, but you know that you'd need to think about it more in the future. That's what I was getting at by saying L promotes certain modes of thought... One mode of thought I noticed about L is the free association... my god, the free association. If you're a writer L is BOMB for brainstorming, it's like the little guy who slows down your ability to freely associate goes off on vacation when you take L, and all of a sudden you just associate all of these thoughts at such a rapid rate- I once went from having no thoughts on the forefront of my mind, just started freely associating out of nowhere without noticing what I was doing, and I actually freely associated from no thoughts to the concept of free association, which I then associated with the weekend before when I ate 8 rolls and 15 mg's of 2c-e and played free association with my straight friend... it was fucked, I hope you followed that mess I just wrote lol.
I have all sorts of revelations while tripping. On the civil war issue, I thought it would happen with the re election of bush too, but I have come to see that it is almost impossible for that to happen. We are very split that is no doubt, but just like it is very tough for terrorists to attack our own soil. It would be very difficult to go about a war like that. Either way I know what the answer is. I wish I was happy with that though.
Another thing. I believe when countries come to agreements. or sign treaties or whatever, The leaders of the countries should use psychedelics in thier peace agreements. I could not see a better way to make permanent peace between people.
Sadly no I was not. That did sound kinda dumb. Oh well. It made some sense. Still though I would love to see psychedelics use come to an all time high soon. When it comes down to it, people that are full fledged psychonauts really in my mind are much saner than your average person, who gets so caught up in thier somewhat pathetic everyday lives they lose track of the big picture. I am not suprised though, because the gov. tries thier hardest to make people think that way. Pay your taxes, and do your job, and they run the rest. How did we let it get like that.
