Safer WITH, or WITHOUT, Gun Control? USA -vs- UK

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Fyrenza, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    if the bad guys are the people in office, then yes.

    otherwise? only a healthy amount of fear.
     
  2. GleichKnallts

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    well, when reading this i would myself ask the question: why are there so many criminals in the first place? some of you ppl seem to be only interested in locking them up and nobody is asking why the heck there are so many of them (as example, you in the US have more than 2.2 million prisoners - thats more than a 4th of the inhabitants of my country).

    treating the causes should be a goal in the long run... because the symptons really are costy.
     
  3. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    Socioeconomic problems.

    easy answer

    hard solution.
     
  4. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    2 million would be near 1/4 of Austria's population. Combine that with the amount of people in jail/prison/parole/probation it would actually eclipse Austria's population.
     
  5. GleichKnallts

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    maybe the "american way" isnt that good after all?
    probably, i dont know. i only know the numbers of ppl actually in jail. however, as far as i see things from here, the US is more interested in building bigger and better prisons than to change the system that produces the criminals.
     
  6. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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  7. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    the "american way" was quite good (when minimum wage was enough to support your family on) but then it was twisted and perverted into, well, this.

    thank you neocons, for showing us you could live off of debt with only mild long term consequences.
     
  8. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Minimum wage has never been enough to support your family on, it was never designed for that.
     
  9. GleichKnallts

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    well actually i tried in a subtle way to point out that the "american way" actually never was all that fine for most ppl.
     
  10. largeamount

    largeamount Senior Member

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    as long as there is a demand for guns, they will be made available legally or illegally. no matter how bad the penalties are there is always someone less fortunate then yourself willing to risk jail for easy money.
     
  11. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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  12. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    that video was retarded, turned gun issues into a racial thing. retarded
     
  13. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    to be fair, moore is a bit of a fat propagandist.
     
  14. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    To be more blunt, Moore is a bit of a moronic fucking retard.
     
  15. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    no, he's a clever guy, he's made a lot of money off of propaganda films.

    He's better at on the spot rhetoric than most politicians (ever hear him say "UH, uh..."?) and he knows how to work people.

    and he's picked some okay causes

    not all okay causes, but some.

    but in the end, he's a flim-flam man.
    Real research shows how specious some of his claims and correlations are, Real critical viewing demonstrates that his material is mostly emotional crap, with less content than filler.

    but he is good at it, and he was clever enough to find what he was good at.

    he's not a moron, or a retard.

    but he is less than honourable in his methods (which are effective in a mass market way, and I don't think he'd be effective if he had to work honourably)

    And he is less than 100% honest in his methodology.


    but he's quite clever about it.
     
  16. Piney

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    Private Investigators working for New York City have uncovered the easy access offered to folks who can not pass a background check for firearms offered at flea market type gun shows.

    Why tout elaborate firearms restrictions if this loophole is allowed?

    Seems some folks are anoyed a Mayor Mike Bloomberg for initiating this sting. For paying tax dollars to private investigators.

    Whre is our press and our media, that private individuals have to uncover law breaking at gun shows;.
     
  17. Piney

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    on Friday, Lil Wayne got sentenced to two years for a handgun found on his tourbus, NYC.
     
  18. Rick OShea

    Rick OShea Banned

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  19. Rick OShea

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    Sullivan Law . . . written by an Irish criminal to keep Italian criminals disarmed . . . And now its used on the brotha's

    Dayum . . .
     

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