Safer WITH, or WITHOUT, Gun Control? USA -vs- UK

college isnt university, right? so a college major may be an equivalent of a bachelor, if i am not mistaken? isnt this more like school in the US? from the organisation i mean.

uh well ppl, you really shouldnt run around talking about college majors and taking quotes from wiki at the same time. makes me shudder deep within my soul. didnt your profs teach you? never take data from wiki? shame on you.

 

College is university in the United States

And didn't you learn to check references? Most facts on wikipedia are backed up by references

 

Never use wikipedia for serious things. Looking to argue about something you don't understand? Wiki is fine for that.

 

What defines serious things? Alright, we'll just use statistics from the NRA and Brady campaign instead, because there'd be no bias in any of those. Nor would those same statistics along with numerous other ones and facts from government and NGO's be looked into, referenced and put on one simple page on wikipedia that you can fact check for yourself

Obviously
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4530930.stm
http://www.stats.org/stories/2009/are_chemicals_killing_us.html

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2006/11/8296.ars

For the most irony.


Not that wikipedia is failsafe, but people have an unnatural bias towards wikipedia when all they have to do is check the references if they don't believe it. As a general reference source, wikipedia is generally rather great.

 

I agree, because most claims have citations, you can see exactly where someone is making their statements from. Generally speaking, i do not pay attention to statements without citations, or anything marked for lack of nuetrality, but other than that it is more or less valid for much of what is said. Of course it does not hurt to check for yourself, because it is edicted by the public and there are, of course, some amomalies.

 

Government claims of falling gun crime undermined by new report



Surprised ?

The return of the sawn-off shotgun

 

nah, not exactly i think. they CAN be departements to/of universitys, but they are not universitys. in this line, you wont be able to get a master or a doctor in a college. what would be the logic of calling the universitys "college" and having seperate universitys?

however, if someone here is running around throwing in his "major in history" or what else, i do in fact expect other sources then wikipedia.

you would be suprised of the sheer number of variations ppl can get out of a single reference/source. so, maybe the person writing a wikipedia article does in fact have given good references, but this does not mean he has actually used or read them, nor does it mean his interpretation of the matter is correct/competent/unbiased/free of personal interpretation/free of an imaginative textinterpretation.
on top of that, EVERYONE can write wikipedia articles and /or change them. Hell, I have observed major affairs in europe about interest groups/political groups changing wikipedia contents.

without a doubt there are some really good wiki articles, but on the other hand, there are also some pretty good manipulated wiki articles, especially when it comes to matters of history or matters of public/ideological interest.

if you or anyone else here throws in his "major in history", his "master of xxx" or may even his "doctor of xxx", then i expect them to use quotes from other sources then wiki. all those titles are low and high academic grade titles - so using wiki as a source makes that a bit strange looking. if you write a scientific work /article and use wiki as a source, your profs will most likely slap you with your work, so i would expect you to not use wiki.

 

Bac on topic........................

In New York City there is new legislation that police can just pull over a taxi cab at any time to check out driver and passengers. This is in response to several cab drivers being shot by criminal passengers.

New legislation is pending to increase penalties for firearms posession if the person is drunk. remember......Plaxico was popped in a nite-club

 

In NYC they do! This can result in acusations of racisim

 

College IS university in the United States, there is no unified term or definition for it. The only remote general consensus is University generally applies to research schools or schools that offer doctorate programs, but this changes around the country. And actually we were allowed to use wikipedia at my university as long as it checked out.

 

Wouldn't this be a blatant violation of the right to privacy?

 

Fuck yeh! I want some grenades and RPG's

 

this is fucking retarded. Can you cite your facts on clueless Americans? and Jay Leno doesn't count, I saw that same thing you spoke of on late night tv. Clever editing much...

 

i thought you were in a college? at a university you can get the master degree and doctorand degrees, end of story. there are colleges that offer master degrees, however, those studies have their own curriculum and are supervised by universitys.

colleges can also be situated at universitys, but this doesnt make them university grade institutions.

to clear this up: colleges are a tertiary education institutions that offer undergraduate studies, which means a "bachelor" (or similar) degree after 4 years. its really quite simple, if you go to chollege for 4 years and graduate, you have finished a tertiary education, not an university. there are only very few exceptions (like dartmouth) that call themselves "college" instead of "university" because of historical reasons.

since, as mentioned bevore, you can actually go to university, but if you attend to a "college" at the university, this is simply identical in location, not in education or system.

just answer the question: 4 years? or more? (naturally minimal study-time). then i tell you if you went to university or college.

 

It was a gallop poll around the 4th a few years ago. Why don't you believe it? Have you ever had a conversation about history with the general populace:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/3742/new-poll-gauges-americans-general-knowledge-levels.aspx

• 85% of men compared to only 69% of women know that America's freedom was won from England
• 80% of whites vs. 54% of blacks answered correctly

As far as you know, from what country did America gain its independence following the Revolutionary War?
England/Great Britain/United Kingdom 76% France 2 Other 3 No opinion 19


As far as you know, does the earth revolve around the sun, or does the sun revolve around the earth?
Earth revolves around the sun 79% Sun revolves around the earth 18 No opinion 3 100%

 

Maybe it's different in your country, because I know it probably is, most countries in Europe have a very different system of both high school/college/who and how they get into college. My school was Southern Connecticut State University, all the state schools are called that here and in most states. While Southern was well known for it's nursing, psychology and teaching program, it is by far not the best in terms of academia. I live in the same area as Yale university, now that's a university. But by name alone Connecticut has about 14 universities if not more.

 

the question is how many years is the minimum time for your degree?

 

Depends on the subject, but in general associates is 2, bachelors is 4, but this is in general, take enough classes and summer classes you can knock it out in 3, some people do 5 just to take it easy, it's not by years but credits.

 

i know its about credits, however, is the highest reachable degree bachelor?

 

No all the state schools I know go to at least masters(though not for all subjects a bachelor is offered in), I can't vouch for anything higher though as I never had to look into it. Most schools that aren't community colleges or real small schools normally at least offer at least a few master subjects