Russia and Trump are a psyop

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by unfocusedanakin, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Trump didn’t want to impose those sanctions, but if he hadn’t he would have been in violation of existing US law.
    Long established Law.

    Trump has his nose so far up Putin’s ass he would need surgery to have it removed
     
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  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Ras Putin raises again.​

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  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Recent news is showing I am correct. Trump is a tool. We are now at the point where Muller will show this and his voters will not care. Further showing that yes indeed long term psychological damage is done.

    The Liberals can not be right. They are too far gone to accept this.
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I really think WWIII is going to start just as a form of population control, and forget just fighting over resources, fighting over just spare land.

    Id see India vs China or US vs China more likely now than US vs Russia
     
  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    We now know that Trump seriously discussed pulling U.S. from NATO, and it was Kelly and a few other top aids that convinced him otherwise. Is there anything on earth Putin would want more than to weaken NATO by having the U.S. pull out, so he could ride roughshod over the rest of the world.


    President Vladimir V. Putin not only has Trump in his back pocket, but he also has him sucking his dick.
     
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  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    consent of the governed is the ball to keep your eye on, everything else is the illusionist'd distracting flourish.
    (and trump is nothing, if not the grate illusionist. well grate in his own mind. but he is messing with all of us)
     
  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    US and Russia have enough spare land. They won't run out of spare land anytime soon. Certain resources is likely a sooner reason. But I'm not worried about it because neither country benefits of a war, certainly not a world war. China might be the biggest concern regarding a war, but not at first with a western country and also no world war: highly hypothetical me thinks
     
  8. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    war is bullshit. people make excuses for it. environment disrespected, is five times as deadly, perminent, final and ultimate, however less entertaining that might well be.
    populations recover from wars, even if cultures have a hard time getting over the histories of them.
    everyone goes home and makes even more babies then there were before they began when they're over.
    but an environment lost, you just don't exist without what your existence depends upon.
    that's all kind of obvious, or it ought to be, except its ignored, because it isn't very entertaining, not exiciting enough, not as exciting as beating each other over the head for sparklies,
    even when we starve while doing so. people, some people, our dominant culture, that romantacizes aggressiveness, being so obsessed with excitement.

    great? what is greatness, if not throwing away freedom to try and impress each other, and for what? five seconds of gratification?
    creating and exploring gratifies for years, decades, even lifetimes.
    wars and ostentation not required. just not making everything piles of garbage. and its wars and the conflict mentality that do that too.
     
  9. JS420

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    It just so happens that he owes the Russian oligarchs 340 million dollars because of the fact that no other country or bank would lend him any money because of all his failed business ventures and bankruptcies . And there's the pee tape.
     
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  10. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Even though he's no longer president, he's still a player on the world stage with help from his Russian disinformation allies, who have become bosom buddies with America's right-wing media
     
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  11. scratcho

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    Consigned to lost memories: Don Junior--- "we have lots of money coming in from Russia."
     
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  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    america and russia both have this rediculous obsession about big. as if bigness were supposed to make anything wonderful about anything.

    trees and forests and mountains are supposed to be big, that's fine, but making anything bigger then it needs to be is just pointless wastefulness.

    that's another thing weird in the negative sense, all those crazy right-wing outfits started out being all about being anti-russia, back when russia was trying to pretend to be marxist, but now they're in bed with it, though the same hate anything that doesn't hate logic crap, as if what idiology anyone pays lip service to had jack to do with quality of life which comes from the culture of how considerate people are or are not, is still at the bottom of what they all are, except now they and russia are all boozum buddies.

    well a lot of good artists with imagination live all over the world, so really a country like russia or the u.s., it doesn't make sense to me for that to be what matters, or matters as much or more, then the kind of world we all create by how considerately or otherwise we live in it.

    and of course that's why trump was such a load of crap, that people, ok, first time he was elected maybe a lot of people voting for him didn't know or understand what he was, but by the time he'd been in a year or so, anyone who was still with him had to have been really squezing their eyes shut awfully hard, or imagend they had some really strong incentive to do so, one i've not seen in real life.
     
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  13. Piney

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    The Mueller Report did not validate hysteria over Russian operations.
     
  14. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    The Mueller Report was a whitewash of history...
     
  15. tjr1964

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    Russia needed Trump ; to secure Top Secret Documents, to cause a division in America, to dismantle NATO, to divide the European Union and possibly enable Putin to make territorial gains to regain old Soviet Union Territory.

    He accomplished helping the Syrian / Russian Alliance in keep the Syrian President in power .
     
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  16. themnax

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    putin and trump both think (or claim to) that they own each other. both are part of a much larger picture in which each others capitalism and marxism (neither of which actually exist as such) use each other as an excuse for fascism (which unfortunately does, and is used and practiced by both)

    along with intelligence gathering, yes psyops, is to some varying degrees, something nearly everyone practices on each other, whither in name or after the fact.

    (trump seems to have wanted to pass on the crown jewels of the five eyes to everybody. if he wanted to make a profit off of doing so, it looks like he went about it erratically clumsily.)
    (he may have wanted a lot of international influence personally, and as political leverage, but again it seems his 'genius' to be primarily in his own mind,
    while ignoring all risk and harm to anyone beyond himself.)
     
  17. tjr1964

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    The man is a Treasonist Psychopathic Narcissist, that is capable of anything .

    And much like Charles Manson, he has others do his " Dirty Work " , 1-6-21, is 100% proof that he is a Psychopath with a Cult of low intellect incellic, Racist and Fascist militants.

    The GOP created this element thru slow acclimation, defunding of education and economic austerity.
     
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  18. tjr1964

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    Nah, PrimaDonald had "Helsinki Syndrome " on stage behind the podium... Putin had Trump on a leash .
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  19. tjr1964

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    Funny, that the lies and Propaganda, that Steve Bannon, MAGA, Fox Fake News, Mike Levin, Qanon, OAN, Mike Lindell and others, preach, is identical to Russian GRU / SVR Propaganda.

    IT'S OBVIOSLY MORE THAN COINCIDENCE BY NOW ....
     
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  20. Toker

    Toker Lifetime Supporter

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    Yup! But you left out Guiliani and Mike Flynn, the two go betweens for Putin. Let's not forget Kushner and his backdoor to Putin. Remember that was one of the first things Jared tried to do when he got in the White House.
     
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