Roofers Wanted...what The Hell?

I don't get it. Aside from the fact that most folks MIGHT think about their working lives as being or having been used as wage slaves----we're born into it, so that's eventually what we all do. Some kind of work. Where in the hell are people that can actually work?? My boys are losing jobs now because they cannot find anyone that will actually WORK. Ads in the paper--mentions to the roofing supply houses that they need workers---nope.

I have worked : service station at 14, driven tractor in the summers during high school, oil field worker, auto plant worker, worked in banking and more, until I finally fell into roofing. Most everyone I worked around ALL those years knew HOW TO WORK and did. There has to be SOME people that can and are willing and able to work. An observable fact for me was that EVERY BUILDING IN THE WORLD has a roof on it. It's a trade that is ancient and honorable. It will always exist. My boys are willing to train, provide work and treat workers with respect.

Roofing is hard, hard work. No doubt about it. Maybe that is what scares people off? I'm not going to fall back on the old "whats 'a matter with kids these days," saw. But what the hell?

 

I would put it down to the post-industrial age. There is so much technology, so much machinery to do work for us that we are beginning to become lazy.

I think many good things can come of this post industrial era but only if we don't loose touch with our roots and learn as a species to keep technology as our servant and be careful what we do with technology.

If we are not careful robots can take over every job and people will loose more technical skill.

I mean your grandfather might say "what is wrong with people that they don't grow their own food anymore." You are correct. We need to get back to basics back to our ancestral inheritance but at the same time embrace the new arising consciousness of the age of Aquarius (or whatever you'd prefer to call it)

 

Can your boys get a job in roofing? I wish the best of luck to them.
Life is getting harder and harder for most people, as the population continues to grow.......
The quality of life is compromised as the quantity explodes.
Just a truth that has always been.

 

(to cannabliss)Yeah. Good points. The day robots can roof will be the day I fly to the moon.

 

I will go with you.

 

My boys are running our roofing company now. I roofed 'till I was 70, but an operation slowed me a little. (although I just finished power washing and treating my neighbors roof). They need people who can work and might be willing to learn the trade.

It's been said that prostitution is the oldest trade. Uh-uh. Roofing is. People didn't look for sex when bad weather was upon them---they looked for shelter--a covering called --a roof. I reckon like sex, some were better than others at constructing --a roof. These then were called--TA-DA--roofers!!

 

I see what you mean Skip. Sorry 'bout that. (Roofers wanted).

 

That's great....hard, real work, so i hope your sons get some good, trust worthy workers....

 

Thanks. me too.

 

I have a feeling that in the next 50-100 years there won't be much work left for humans. everything will be done by machines. machines don't need to eat, sleep, or rest or have personal needs or motives.

I wonder what will become of mainstream society though at that point? I assume most will be largely even more ignorant than current. only a small group of individuals will be required to actually engineer the design of the machines and write the code. would it require the work of 7 billion people to do this? would there even be a use for the work of 7 billion people. maybe people would be more free to pursue their own passions, and make that their work as opposed to the dogmatic careers of today?

 

It hurts to have to turn business away. There are so many trades people who do not seem to care these days that when you find someone who does a good job and yet can not find people to work for them, it is frustrating. It does not help that then you lose that contact as a roof is not something that you replace often.

Hope that they manage to find some good people.

 

In principle, automation could be used to benefit everyone. What is more likely is that those who control the resources get the benefits, and the rest get the shaft.

If enough people get shafted, then there is some political pressure, especially in (at least nominal) democracies, for change. At that point, either the system changes to benefit a marginalized majority, or democracy "goes away". If democracy goes away, then eventually the impoverished masses, who are no longer productive for elites, only a threat, "go away" too.

 

just because a number of people are not necessarily "necessary" for society to exist, does not de facto make them a "threat" to society. that's what society needs to eventually realize as well, and leave the dogmatic ideas of what exactly "society" itself is behind in the last millenium. the elite will always have more than these they perceive as threats, so they should be happy knowing that. what is threatened, their greed for "even more, and more"?

of course some people truly are a threat to society, ironically they are probably the ones with the most influence.

 

I don't know (or expect you to post) the details of the workings of the business but I can tell you that, in my line of work, a lot of employees are paid "cash" and given a 1099 at the end of the year. Around here it seems like there are a lot of young guys working like that in different lines of work. This creates a situation where all I have to do is pay them the correct way, carry all applicable insurance policies and have work for them and I have the cream of the crop to choose from. After they've worked some of those other jobs....they are damn happy to work at a place like this. They are on time, happy to be here and more productive. And...they give a shit if the business is successful. There is no "hey...that's not my job/problem" attitude. It costs more money to do business this way but we also make more money.

But yeah.....some people are just lazy and don't want to work.

 

well, i suppose the enlightened view would be to not see poor people as a threat. but if rich people don't feel like sharing, and poor people don't have any value to them on some economic, interpersonal, or moral level, then they can really only see them as a threat. that threat may be small, but they will probably still see them that way.

even if people aren't a revolutionary threat, and aren't significant competitors for natural resources, they still can be a breeding ground for disease.

my opinion is that many (not all) people at elite levels of power see the world in terms of a zero sum game

 

If you want to keep making money, you need to keep selling. Robots don't buy products. They can increase production and profits but if you don't have people who can afford your product...it doesn't matter. Henry Ford knew this. As long as we have capitalism....we need consumers.

 

lol robots on a roof..

 

Why work when the government can just use somebody else's money so you don't have to work?