Yah seriously, I like Ron. But Rudy is in his own world..he truly believes he is above Paul and superior in debates...hes just another tool. People think that because he was visible on the streets after 9/11 that he is some great hero...psshhh. That is a load!
The fact is Rudy Giuliani is a total criminal and perhaps one of the most corrupt people in politics, which I guess isn't saying much because they're pretty much all corrupt. Giuliani, however, is super corrupt.... a real mobster. Much of his "heroism" in the wake of 9/11 was the product of the PR firm he hired with the taxpayers' money, which scripted his post 9/11 speeches and basically told him what to say to the media and how to act. This is the man who has given millions to various media outlets to never say anything negative about him or expose his corruption. This is the man who cut funding from public programs -- funded by taxpayer money -- in order to give himself a pay raise. This is the man who had 15 NYC firefighters (the TRUE heros of 9/11) arrested simply for protesting Giuliani's scoop and dump decision, disposing hundreds of dead bodies which never saw a proper burial. This is the man who admitedly -- for whatever reason -- had foreknowledge the buildings were going to collapse on 9/11, yet never did anything to alert those in the towers of this. This is the man who benefited immensely from the 9/11 attacks -- both politically as well as financially -- while never giving a single cent to the first responders who are now dying from cancer and pulmonary fibrosis after breathing toxic air at Ground Zero, that Giuliani himself assured people was completely safe to breathe. (This, despite the fact that Giuliani was never seen around Ground Zero NOT wearing a mask himself.) This man is evil to the very core.
I think there were more arrested than that. There were many firefighters involved in that protest. The media didn't seem to cover it. To me, that was one of the sickest moments in the whole post-911 thing, right next to EPA report tampered by the White House to make it sound like the air was safe. They were in such a big hurry to clear that material, yet the site sat vacant for 5 years after that. .
Yeah, well, when a criminal commits a crime and is able to get rid of the evidence at the crime scene, they don't leave it only for it to come back and bite them in the ass later.
The Port Authority, Guiliani, and the rest will never be held accountable for anything that happened. I know that's frustrating. Nearly all the relatives took the package the government offered in return for not taking legal action, so there is little hope of any legal recourse. .
Oh, man is he gonna have a lot of hellish lifetimes to pay off his karmic debt from this one! He and bush and cheney and the rest of that criminal cabal will prolly spend eternity sodomising each other violently and god only knows what else... If there is a Hell, they will surely show up there before too much longer. Ron Paul, on the other hand, could do a lot to relieve a lot of suffering around the globe by undoing what those miserable fucks have done. We should support him, and anyone else who is willing to help restore our country, if it's not too late already.... Peace
Guiliani is no saint in my book. He's all media hype. He and Bush on the wreckage of the twin towers, what did either one do to mitigate the damage? They got the press, but they didn't either one accomplish shit.
Bush Visits Rescuers at Ground Zero President Bush, center, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, left, and New York Governor George Pataki, second from left, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., second from right, and New York City Fire Commissioner Thomas Van Essen, right, look toward the fallen buildings. (AP Photo - Sep 14, 2001)
Pepik likes arguing over the most mundane points. OK, so he was seen a few times around Ground Zero not wearing a mask. However, that's really not the point. The point is, the first responders were never provided the proper respiratory gear, let alone masks, and are now suffering the consequences because of it. Giuliani, who has profited immensely from the attacks, hasn't done a thing to see the first responders receive the proper medical treatment, and has shunned the NYFD firefighters on numerous occasions. Yet, he has the audacity to act like the big hero of 9/11 when he didn't do shit. Ask any NYFD firefighter what they think of Giuliani. The man is crooked beyond belief. But it's no surprise you are defending the criminal. You both serve the same elitists at the top. Have fun rotting in hell.
Rat said 'around' ground zero. Besides, he's already admitted he was wrong, its a bit late to cover for him. Anyway I'm not disputing that it was wrong to send rescuers down there without masks, I'm just pointing out that Rat constantly lies.
You are the one that posted your heroes at ground zero. Wave your flags sound your bugles. But your guys never went where they were in danger, but they didn't hesitate to send others to clean up the mess.