Riot videos - anticapitalist riots !!!!

Discussion in 'Protest' started by ronald Macdonald, May 1, 2007.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Haven't bought a new tv or vehicle or new clothes in over fifteen years. But I am not out to destroy property or kill just because I don't believe in capitalism. Don't own a DVD, using a computer that was built in 1999. Don't own a cell phone either.

    What haven't you bought in even two years Ronald?
     
  2. ronald Macdonald

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  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Advertising riots are you Ronald, how many have you taken part in?
     
  4. ronald Macdonald

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    Fuck off Mr Police man
     
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  6. memo

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    I wish people here would get that worked up over something other than sports.
     
  7. ronald Macdonald

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    well done man ! over in the usa you gotta do it ! it has to happen, in Europe the next 5 years will decide the fate of our revolutionary left wing

    believe me it takes some balls to stand in striking range of a baton, and when it hits you dont forget it easily but - the personal pain is nothing compared to the thought that the person who did it is a brainwashed zombie and is paid to protect capitalism ! His job is to protect business and politicians

    They dont put women cops on the front line but women anarchists prove that they are just as strong as guys
     
  8. gardener

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    Just where in Europe are you Ronald? And have you felt the baton first hand are you just imagining the glory of it all? How many woman cops or anarchists have you known first hand. And I don't mean that sexually.
     
  9. ronald Macdonald

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    Gardener you sound like a coop - I wish I had a name rank and serial number to give you, dude dont be afraid - we are after the state not the people who live in the dungeons they call USA and Europe.

    I live in The European Union

    I am in 3 of those vids see if you can spot me - you'll have to watch them all tho - I'm not giving Knacker of the Yard a clue
     
  10. gardener

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    Yeah and I am married to Britney Spears. I am not afraid of you or your ilk. You like to watch adventure films but you cry to momma when you have a tooth ache. Are you wearing the yellow suit and the clown makeup? Or are you as invisible as you are on the net pretending to be macho and something you are not.
     
  11. sentient

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    Look your own failed revolution in the late 1960s and 70's failed and now why should any of the left wing listen to you pacifists?
    Whats the point in trying to understand what is going on in the left wing with old fashioned losing tactics ?? Its taken 30 years to recover from the bloody mess you and your hippy generation made of it. Peace fuckin give me peace?
    You have to fight for peace ironic isnt it, that here we are 60 years after world war two fighting against fascism in our own backyard.

    Dont bring your pacifist hippy crap to this revolution this is anarchist not bourgeois hippydom - never trust anyone who looks like they might have something to lose, especially if its their chains theyre afraid of losing

    maybe you, gardener just dont want the end of capitalism enough !!!!!
    huh maybe you are just not left wing at all !
    go vote for someone and stop hassling people who really want change !
     
  12. White Scorpion

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    No disrespect nacht, to you or to anyone in Germany, but whenI read history I get the impression that people like your grandfather fought because they had no choice. I could be wrong, but I think that Sentient's point is that we still have a choice to change things for better or for worse. As we are frog marched towards the future, our freedom of choice will also disappear, and then it will be a real struggle for liberty.

    I'm not sure I understand Gardner's point about boycotting t-shirts and stuff, or avoiding Chinese products like some young man who's still wearing his Christmas jumper said somewhere. The world is too big, and the dollar too weak, to make a difference. In fact companies in the US are falling over each other to invest their dollars in the Chinese market. Boycotting buying the odd plastic crap is like saying I'll boycott Antarctica by not putting ice cubes in my drink.
     
  13. gardener

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    How did it fail? Please explain.
     
  14. gardener

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    So you'd rather go out and create violence?
     
  15. gardener

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    The "state" is made up of people you create violence against it and you risk killing and destroying the lives of others. Is that what your cause is all about? I've never advocating for killing anyone. I've never felt like my manhood or status in society was based reaping venegance on others no matter what their crime.
     
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    The dollar isn't all that strong any longer, since our president decided to go to war, and we have such large trade deficits with places like China. Showing you that only by working through the market can you have any lasting impact.
     
  17. White Scorpion

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    Did someone say I prefer violence? Prefer violence to what?

    Well, let's see:

    Choice #1: Become a person afraid of his government, his neighbours, his colleagues, even his own family, because he could end up a political prisoner, or executed for saying the wrong thing.

    Choice #2: Try and change the world.

    When you have two dishes on the menu, then you also have a limited choice of what goes with it. If one of those dishes is getting stamped on my head every day by a fadscist's boot then I choose dish #2. Boycotters can have my share of the boot.
     
  18. sentient

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    Its a waste of time scorpion, theres no real way of talking to the yanks, they have bought into the idea of the patriotic USA and were sold it hook, line and sinker. the fact is and I know this is a fact the USA believes part of its enterprise is to have forum trolls that post in defence of the usa and I believe it happens at HIP - they pretend rebellion but when it comes right down to it old uncle sam has rogered them all up the arse for years and now they enjoy it - uncle sam the dirty old bastard. Its like a game with them they actually believe they are a superior race - ah the taller they are....ha ha ha -

    we'll see we'll see
     
  19. White Scorpion

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    Maybe the Americans won't protest because they are still feeding off the blood and sweat of the third world, and by squeezing the natural resources and assets of nations they invade. Maybe. Maybe the pillars of their civilization are held up on the shoulders of generations of African slaves, and the knees of Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, and Cubans who were lied to and told they would find a better life in the US. Maybe. Maybe Americans won't protest, because they think there will always be Irish immigrants to build their railways, or Chinese to do their laundry, or native Americans to provide them with more land, or Italians to feed them, or Germans to put them ahead in the field of science... maybe... maybe... maybe... or maybe it will be these very same people... these forgotten Americans, these looked-down-upon Americans, these Americans who were sold a lie instead of a dream.

    It will be these Americans who will stand up for true liberty. The rope is close to snapping from the overweight capitalist it is supporting. The only thing that can save it is the people themselves by kicking off the fat pig before it drags everyone down with it, and the only thing any US government will not do is remind you the one single event of just what good ol' plain American folk are capable of doing. Long before Russian revolutions, and anarchist marches some decent people had enough of being treated like animals and they stood up. Some paid the price, and their history is hardly refered to by most Americans. And yet it is thanks to those few people that demonstrated, that protested, that fought, that sacrificed that we have workers rights.

    The day was Mayday.

    The place was Chicago.

    And Americans are capable of protesting for their rights.
    They have just been led to believe that it's futile.
     
  20. sentient

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    careful WS you will be teaching them next how to treat their slaves well and overfeed them so they dont rebell and we want revolution for revolution sake !
     

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