21 arrested in Halifax, Canada, during demonstration against Atlantica economic conference. Hundreds Confront Atlantica, Keep Cops Running by IMC Friday, Jun. 15, 2007 "Early reports indicate 16 confirmed arrests A noon-time march drew about 400 this afternoon starting from Victoria Park. Organized as the largest anti-Atlantica event this weekend, the march included a large, direct action contingent. Speakers at Parade Square emphasized the disastrous effects that the Atlantica International Region would have upon Atlantic Canada and New England. Speakers included Joseph Jardany from the Halifax/Dartmouth District Labour Council, Brendan from the Ecology Action Centre, the Halifax Raging Grannies, Mustafa from Block the Empire Montreal, and Halifax's own political hip-hop catastrophe EMC and the Hermit. Most bystanders or onlookers at the event that I spoke to either had no idea what Atlantica was, or had a hazy and distrustful understanding of the proposal. The march departed at approximately 1:30, and slowly snaked down Spring Garden, with demonstrators chanting "A-I-M-S, that's the way you spell distress", "BMO, Irving Oil, How many unions will you spoil" and "Atlantica: Shut it down." As the crowd arrived near Parade Square in downtown Halifax, the anti-capitalist contingent, numbering at least 100 split off and started to run towards the World Trade and Convention Centre, the site of the Atlantica conference. A green contingent remained in Parade Square for speeches. A few paint bombs were thrown at cops, as well as one smoke bomb, after which the Anti-Capitalist contingent/Black Block turned on their heels and headed down Argyle St, away from the loose line of police that had gathered in front of the WTCC. This snake march then headed towards the Spring Garden library, where police began pushing and grabbing protestors. I witnessed one arrest, and pepper spray made a brief appearance. At this point, there was a split in the march, with some people heading up Brunswick and others moving towards the library. Those at the library were apparently pepper-sprayed. At some point, a group of black blockers were corralled by police on Brunswick St. Accounts indicate that as many as 8, perhaps nine were pepper-sprayed, even while they were lying on the ground, clearly under arrest. One protestor was knocked completely unconscious by police after being repeatedly tazered while lying on the ground. An ambulance did not arrive for more than 5 minutes. At present, the direct action group has dissipated, and there is a small group of approximately 30 protestors gathering in front of the WTCC doors, in front of a line of riot cops. As I type, accounts seeming to be indicating that police staged another arrest of a demonstrator. 16 arrests have been confirmed, the actual number is likely to be many more. Mainstream media on the scene swarmed the arrests looking for sensational footage. When asked what would likely make it to air in stories about Atlantica, these journalists apologetically claimed that their editors would probably subsume the story with the usual cops-and-paint-bombs cliches." RESISTANCE is GLOBAL
Is putting on little costumes and marching past Sock it To Ya! in support of failed political ideologies from two centuries ago really the best thing these people have to do?
i think they actually believe our only agenda destruction for the sake of destruction. That's NOT the case. I see it as more of a retaliation (in regards to rioting) than anything. the uprising of "slaves" has been proven effective throughout history. When pleas are blatantly ignored, violence becomes a necessary tactic.
property that isn't even owned by the public anyhow. it's all corporate garbage e.g. McFatass, Walfart, etc. i don't see why everyone gets all uppity about it. the corporate whores deserve what's comin to them. they've exploited the people long enough.
its because theyve "worked hard for their property!" fuck that. they dont work for it. they manage money and give orders. and they own so much property anyways. its down right disgustnig.
What are your pleas - how would the rest of mankind benefit from your agenda for change ?. Are you protectionist / nationalistic - like do you want us out of the E.U - will you have a ''parliament'' how are you going to inact laws - what happens if you are voted out - are you going to have votes What is your manifesto ?.
dude, it's pointless arguing with that guy. he's still too "connected to the comfort". The world around him doesn't exist. He's obviously terrified of embracing change. It's not ur fault MB...they've brainwashed u into thinking the world is fine as it is, and that u'll benefit somehow from acquiring all of the garbage they peddle at u. It's sad. And I won't waste my breath on someone who just doesn't want to see the world as it is and what it CAN BE. When ur ready to listen, i'll tell u. Until then, try broadening ur perspective on the world.
i dont really think its that. he just has no real or basic understanding of what anarchism is. a parliament? haha.
most people don't understand the beauty of the philosophy of anarchy. They've been manipulated by the media into believing it's just chaos and destruction. I say, read up on it (Bakunin's work especially), then comment on it.
Everybody seems to have their own agenda - just wondering what his was. I put parliament in '' '' for a reason. Maybe you won't have anything like that. No i'm no expert on ''anarchism'' and reading some of the posts around here even some supposed ''anarchists'' are not either. I'm not argueing with anybody - i'm asking questions. Yes no doubt you could spout anything from some book - but that is ofcourse just ''text book'' - you surely have some thoughts of your own. Erm well apart from nobody can actually get ''brainwashed'' - no i'm not ''brainwashed'' as you put it. I despise overt consumerism and don't feed into that at all. Well thanks for coming to such a quick conclusion of me - I appreciate that - why do you think i'm asking questions of you is that not ''broadening ur perspective on the world''.
because i've read some of ur other posts. i've drawn the conclusion that ur not ready to listen to alternatives. You argue YOUR opinion and ignore possibilities.
YEAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! Sweet news: Protest in effect. Blockade set up on hwy 404 past Belleville. Via Rail shut down, estimated to lose millions today!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!! Way to go First Nations!!!!! Protest to move to Queen's Park today. Rally downtown! http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=80f830b1-f459-4b54-a9d5-50d281784ec5
Well as I said i'm not argueing - yes I have a opinion but the point is we could argue all day - first though I need to know where you stand and what your ''manifesto'' is . To be honest I do not want to argue with you - it is gives you the opportunity to disregard the questions and come out with trite responses like ''He's obviously terrified of embracing change''. Give me your alternatives and your manifesto. Imagine that you have only posted 38 posts here and I know nothing of you. Clearly before the smoke clears life is simple - your strategy is simple BUT then that smoke clears and you need to relate to how the rest of the world actually is. hence the questions I ask.
Lol. Darling, i don't need to tell u what my "manifesto" is. I'd already told u it's a moot conversation. And yes, u don't know anything of me. That's the beauty of anonymity on the internet. I'm positive others have already explained this to you. you choose to put up the barrier u do. I've learned to speak to those who want to listen.
Anarchy is a hypothetical collectivist utopia promoted mostly by teen rebels. The closer you look at it, the more it fragments into a thousand different ideologies. Since they tend to have a very weak and confused grasp of an ideology which doesn't really make much sense anyway, most of these angry teen rebels prefer to be "antis", e.g. anti-capitalism, and anti-globalisation, which is a lot easier since it requires no coherent ideology at all. The evidence is all over hipforums - look at the anarchy forum, which is completely dead, except for the occasional brief comments where people invariably split into different anarchist sects. Even look at this thread - oh no, anarchy's not about violence and chaos - well look what topic brought out the anarchists? Riots. Didn't take long for people to start celebrating the destruction of property because their "pleas" are "blatantly ignored". When asked what the "pleas" were, well who'se got time to explain to the unenlightened? Lets go destroy somebodys business!
When have you said it is a ''moot conversation'' ?. For sure I don't know anything of you - on the whole I don't want to know much about you. If you are going to partake in a forum knowing something about what you stand for and what your ''personal manifesto'' is would be helpful. All you respond with is the usual shite about ''others'' obviously being dyemetricaly apposed to your position and vague notions you spout from Bakunin - well to be fair nothing from him at all from what I can see. He has spoken about nationalism / protectionism and knew about where his agenda would sit with the rest of his country and the rest of the world. Obviously his ideas are 150+ years out of date on the whole - so please don't fob me off be a little bit more lucid. Not especially mere videos about shiting on the ''system'' nothing much original or concrete. I am fucking listening YOU are not speaking.