Yes that's why I said "we are trying to get over it" I disagree here, just look at the caliber of people on this forum alone with their "racist" mind frame. Germans have been trying to build a bridge away from this for a long time now we're probably destined similar to American South now. Ain't no way an American isn't looking at a German with a Rebel Flag as a non Nazi, they're confused about it already in this thread. Why this, why that. They don't get it, even when you tell 'em they won't get it they'll consistently fall into the pattern of their pre determined agenda and I'll be back here in a year saying the same thing, as always, like every year and their minds will not change and they will not learn.
Lol k I wasnt arguing that your tattoo should be illegal so I guess that would be why I dont remember you posting about the legality of it
Sorry I didn't mean to post that part I thought I had deleted it but it must have saved, that's why it is incomplete or unfinished. But no the topic was brought up in the conversation about me going to jail for having such a tattoo which I dismissed as being factually innaccurate.
There are several official versions of the Confederate flag that most people display including the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, the battle flag of Forrest's Cavalry Corps, the second Confederate Navy Jack, the second Confederate Navy Ensign, and an elongated version of the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, which is the one most people know. There are other Confederate flags that most people have never seen or don't know about. So ignoring any racist things, what you're telling me is that you display one of these flags becasue you feel an affinity with "outlaws". "Someone who chooses their own destiny", a "rebel". In other words someone who doesn't believe in a just government, law and order. Someone who feels they have a right to defy society's norms, break the law, hence becoming an out law. Someone who fights their own government, not through the proper channels in an effort to better their own society and those within it, but by scoffing at that government, system, and laws. Just as the Confederate States of America choose to disregard their own Constitution, which allows for peaceful dissent and change, rebelled, took up arms against their own government instead of working within it for change, sought their own destiny outside of the Union, and brought about the death of 650,000 to 1,000,000 people. Fuck the system. Same as many Americans, no different. We just also have the slavery bit to content with. Very intelligent way to bring about lasting peace and brotherhood.
So what you're saying is, maybe I got a bit of confederate inside me after all? I'll take that, you know we be wearing grey all down my blooine.
If that's the moniker you choose, a traitor to your own nation and society, an outlaw, someone who takes from law abiding citizens for their own benefit and even kills those who try to uphold the law. So be it.
Lol, well you can romanticise how you want to in any way if it makes you feel better, but if I'm a traitor to a corrupt government and social corruption then that's fine by me. I'll be a traitor. I'll stand up for what I believe in regardless of what people might call me.
Well like a handful of gun laws actually passed even though 20,000 people protested nobody gives a fuck about their stupid ass gun laws.. Absolutely nobody..
No, I'm implying I don't particularly give a fuck about the American South, the Union or your personal feelings about the flag. I'm wearing it for my own reasons.
Yes, you told us your reason, rebel, fight the system etc. But you choose a symbol of the American Confederacy, an entity that fought on the wrong side of history for the wrong reasons, and a battle flag at that. If you want to be a rebel and fight the system why not wear an image of Mahatma Gandhi, a man of peaceful resistance and rebellion? Or maybe a Mother Teresa shirt?
Which means regularly answering the question what it stands for Esp if you bring it up in public. Same with a comment about siding with or supporting the men in grey. I hope you're not so foolish to assume that americans who sympathize with such posts from you do so because they have the same innocent reasons as you.
What about the red communist star? That's also not flaunted on t shirts because people support Castro or Stalin, or crave a communist dictatorship. It's worn to provoke, to show that others have a different mindset, etc. Last t ime i was wearing an old shirt with one on it I was called out for it twice by strangers! Completely took me by suprise.
I don't mind explaining myself, I mind when people think just because it's American then only Americans can use it. I've had that before. You got your rah rah racists and your "you can't wear that, that flag is in my blood" both moron stooge groups. Am I not allowed to wear my NASCAR shirts or Broncos jerseys either cause I'm not American? My sporting lineage puts most American to shame with those sports.
Yo Mel, you using too many big words that I don't understand and since I don't understand 'em, i'mma take them as offence.
I assume you mean this definition. verb /əˈprəʊprɪeɪt/ 1. take (something) for one's own use, typically without the owner's permission. Maybe, but rednecks are just Europeans born in another country and forgot their native tongue. Change my mind.