Rhymes or Reason

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  1. Candy Gal

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    I have
     
  2. BJintheUK

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    Can't say that I've read any Thomas Hardy. I guess I'll have to. There's Jude the Obscure, the Mayor of Casterbridge, and Tess of the Durbavilles that I know of, and I'm sure there are others as well for my reading list, so I s'pose I'll have to go hunting around to see what I can find. :D
     
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  3. fitzgarabaldi

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    well they are his books he wrote but there are a few [many] forums listed to select from
     
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    Thanks to your prompting, I've found some of Thomas Hardy's poetry. It's very good, and it inspired me to write the ode below.

    Gibbous Moon

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    In light from yonder gibbous moon
    the water slowly rises
    ships of different sizes
    though safely moored both stem and stern
    the almanac advises
    the tide will turn from ebb to flow
    the hour approaches soon

    so sleep ye gently while ye may
    while creatures of the night
    hunt quietly by pale moonlight
    to fill their bellies if they might
    then creep back into burrows tight
    to quietly doze while fleas do bite
    as soon will come the day

    and when the Sun at last do clear
    the downs and hills to East
    we'll rise and eat our breaking feast
    then on to work like burdened beast
    to toil all day while paid the least
    until at last our labours ceased
    our lives thus catalogue each year

    for we have nothing, me and you
    unlike the rich who never need
    some say they cannot help their greed
    for when they grew their souls impeded
    starved by fate then led to feed
    upon the spoils from earth indeed
    they cannot see the harm they do

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    I didn't know whether to end it there, or try to continue on, but decided that on the whole it's more or less finished. So there it is, written and presented on Friday, 13th. For your delectation and delight, or not as the case may be.
     
  5. fitzgarabaldi

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    yes that has definitely got a touch of T. Hardy - the life and toils of the working classes heh - thomas H of course became very rich and lived in a large house with his darling wife living on the top floor [there were probably 3 and he on the ground floor and they hardly spoke despite him falling madly in love with her years before and upon her death he was mortified. Strange man. I'm not sure if his first wife understood him at all?? See if I can find some of my favorites and post them in the other thread - thanks again BJ keep working on it if you desire!!
     
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  6. fitzgarabaldi

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    heres the thomas hardy \i was talking about:

    The Darkling Thrush
    BY THOMAS HARDY
    I leant upon a coppice gate
    When Frost was spectre-grey,
    And Winter's dregs made desolate
    The weakening eye of day.
    The tangled bine-stems scored the sky
    Like strings of broken lyres,
    And all mankind that haunted nigh
    Had sought their household fires.

    The land's sharp features seemed to be
    The Century's corpse outleant,
    His crypt the cloudy canopy,
    The wind his death-lament.
    The ancient pulse of germ and birth
    Was shrunken hard and dry,
    And every spirit upon earth
    Seemed fervourless as I.

    At once a voice arose among
    The bleak twigs overhead
    In a full-hearted evensong
    Of joy illimited;
    An aged thrush, frail, gaunt, and small,
    In blast-beruffled plume,
    Had chosen thus to fling his soul
    Upon the growing gloom.

    So little cause for carolings
    Of such ecstatic sound
    Was written on terrestrial things
    Afar or nigh around,
    That I could think there trembled through
    His happy good-night air
    Some blessed Hope, whereof he knew
    And I was unaware.

    I just love his way of describing the countryside of old england from when he first met emma down in cornwall and the chef fellow pays respect to him down there on one of his shows - he makes me feel that I am right back in those times its quite magical!
     
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  7. fitzgarabaldi

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    and this is the first one he wrote about his darling emma whom he later rejected?

    he had met her down in Cornwall

    Beeny Cliff
    March 1870 - March 1913"

    I

    O the opal and the sapphire of that wandering western sea,
    And the woman riding high above with bright hair flapping free—
    The woman whom I loved so, and who loyally loved me.

    II

    The pale mews plained below us, and the waves seemed far away
    In a nether sky, engrossed in saying their ceaseless babbling say,
    As we laughed light-heartedly aloft on that clear-sunned March day.

    III

    A little cloud then cloaked us, and there flew an irised rain,
    And the Atlantic dyed its levels with a dull misfeatured stain,
    And then the sun burst out again, and purples prinked the main.

    IV

    —Still in all its chasmal beauty bulks old Beeny to the sky,
    And shall she and I not go there once again now March is nigh,
    And the sweet things said in that March say anew there by and by?

    V

    Nay. Though still in chasmal beauty looms that wild weird western shore,
    The woman now is—elsewhere—whom the ambling pony bore,
    And nor knows nor cares for Beeny, and will see it nevermore.

    thomas hardy

    very sad heh!
     
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  8. BJintheUK

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    Yes, I read up about him. Like you say, from rags to riches life, and from Emma to many other women, most of them mistresses it seems. Although after Emma's death he did marry someone else, but by then he was in his 60's I think, so he didn't have the drive or energy to entertain both a wife and a mistress anymore. Not only that, but from what I've read, after Emma died, he was full of remorse for their estrangement, and his second wife must have found it a bit off putting playing second fiddle to a dead woman, whom Hardy had rejected in life, but then clung to the memory of in death.
     
  9. fitzgarabaldi

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    yea that sums him up alright!!
     
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    Thanks to the cold snap, I looked out today to find the world had a fresh coat of frosting. It set me to thinking of those for whom the world was less forgiving in the cold than I find it for myself, as I sit here in my centrally heated home and look out on the frosty visage. So I wrote this winter poem.

    Winter Woes

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    The water tumbles o'er the falls
    and down the craggy rocks it splashes
    freezing ice doth line the edge
    along the river's winding course
    and does not melt despite the sun's
    warm morning rays that bathe the ground
    the shining frost that cleans the fields
    a pure white carpet yet untrodden
    undisturbed the frost abounds

    the forest glen is dark and quiet
    only footfall echoes here
    as silent hunter stalks his prey
    and strings an arrow to his bow
    but as he does so ears prick up
    the eyes go wide and white tail lifts
    the grazing doe now springs away
    and in a flash she's gone, oh no

    another day without a meal
    the hunter's hunger gnaws inside
    until he kills his wife and bairns
    will suffer in the freezing whiteness
    so he trudges on and on
    through stinging nettles, biting thorns
    he needs to fill their hungry tums
    he needs to give them all some warmth

    with frozen fingers, aching limbs
    he pulls his cloak around his shoulders
    keeping out the cold he hopes
    until he manages to find
    a deer or just a pair of coneys
    anything whose flesh will warm
    the tiny hands and feet and noses
    crying from the cold at home

    but wait what is that breath I see
    a sleeping pair of geese ahead
    he notches up a cold hard arrow
    pulls his bow and aims with care
    then arrow flies and goose falls dead
    a second arrow flies as true
    and hits the other in the head

    so now at last he can go home
    with bounty for a winter's feast
    the children now will laugh at last
    his wife will pluck the birds today
    then cook the brace in pot and oven
    feathers into covers sewn
    for nothing here is thrown away
    the meat will last at least a week
    until the pot once more is bare
    then out he'll go armed with his bow
    to hunt what he can find out there

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    The cold snap is due to stay all week, but I hope the frost lets up a bit. My missus had to use the hairdryer to thaw out the door lock on her car this morning so that she could go to work. I hope there's no repeat of that tomorrow, or she may end up getting in late. :-(
     
  11. fitzgarabaldi

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    nice one BJ - you seem to have a lilt of TH there? - certainly catches a mood of some times and lifestyle?
     
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  12. fitzgarabaldi

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    A never never day

    I sat in frangipani glade
    the dogs stretched out in midday haze
    the seaward breeze moved gentle leaves
    this never never land can freeze!

    the early morns now cool and sharp
    Gone is that humid apple tart
    but still the sun creeps up the sky
    and by midday has drooped the eye

    just sit it out till twilight comes
    and off shore breezes hum their tunes
    the never never freeze at night
    need canvas swag till bleak sunlight

    the welcome tinge of daylight dawns
    as dew hangs heavy, still not warm
    the 'billy' lets off steam not dew
    and soon cold hands have thawed anew

    Fitz © 2023
     
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  13. BJintheUK

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    Um, I don't know if this is OK or not, but I've written an erotic poem. It doesn't have any rude words in it, so I s'pose it should be alright to post it here. Anyway, here it is.

    Remembering

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    With china doll-like clear white skin
    she smoothly moves from side to side
    her arms reach out, legs akimbo
    smiles and whispers words of love
    seduction guides her swaying hips

    you move in closer till you hear
    her breathing softly, slowly sighing
    soon you know you'll both be feeling
    heat from passions slowly growing
    into something you both need

    to feel each other's presence near
    to watch each other's pupils grow
    her arms now reach to pull you close
    with rising passion you grow bolder
    any second now you'll hold

    the pretty face with eyes so bright
    the flowing hair that falls so free
    she's lying back now open wide
    she wants you, needs you here inside
    this place where raging passions hide

    a secret moment you both share
    a tryst between now entwined lovers
    drawn together from afar
    to touch and feel and warm the other
    avidity inflames desire

    the heat is rising as you move
    and soon your skin is glowing bright
    the beads of sweat now start to drip
    from brow and chin, from breast and hip
    and movement smooth and ever flowing

    nature's rhythm now is driving
    lust and passion must arise
    ever climbing higher still
    as primal urges coalesce
    to push and pull with supple grace

    until the beast with two backs thrashes
    crashes like exploding glass
    shooting shards of life take flight
    as though this moment is its last
    till finally it gasps and shudders

    falls like death into the void
    where lovers now relax unwound
    and lie as one compleat and sated
    heat and pressure now translated
    into something so profound

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    Saturn's day tomorrow, then Sun's day after that. Think I'll just relax and let them get on with it. :)
     
  14. fitzgarabaldi

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    wow - left nothing for the imagination there! very good and very seductive - yes I can just about remember my own events that clear!! we all learn our own style of prose and poetry etc and if it works for you then good we don't need to pander to the public - these can simple be affairs of the heart.
     
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  15. BJintheUK

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    It was an amalgam of various memories from times gone by. Not all of the events in the poem concern just one person, but something from each of them left their mark for me to pull out of the ether and throw untidily at the page.

    As to the style of prose. That's still a hangover from Thomas Hardy's way of not rhyming things directly, mixed with my own blunderbus approach to the use of the English language to try and get a thought or feeling out of my head and onto the screen.

    I don't know about you, but I find that once I've expunged it from my psyche I can happily forget about it altogether. As though the sheer act of writing it down is enough to absolve me of the sin of thinking it. A bit like going to a confessional and being given hail mary's by a priest. They give the ex-sinner a boost in morale, and a lightness of being that can only be obtained by cleansing the soul of all the burdens piled onto it by our little daily wrongdoings. So that's poetry for me, whatever form it takes, the impetus is there to sweep away the misery of existence by reaffirming my ability to express in the only language I know, the meanings I can glean of life, love and the universe. The ultimate answer '42'. :)
     

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