Revelations of an Elite Family Insider...

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Deleted member 50876, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Well after reading the "Insider" posts and beginning to go through the "Hidden Hand" material one thing became very apparent, they're the same person. The content of the Insider stuff is really nothing more than a regurgitation of mystical ideas and religious thought that has been around for ages smattered with some secret society conspiracy stuff. I actually was struck by how similar his wording sort of reminded me of Wayne Dyer's work, which is just modernized eastern thought. Then we have the Hidden Hand. Amazingly from my glancing through it it seems to be full of stuff that has been more popularized in the last few years since the Insider posts; 2012, climate change catastrophies and such. This person is full of it!! Sure their is some truth to it, and some of what he says resonates with us all. The reason for that is simple, WE ARE ALL HUMANS AND SHARE THE SAME REALITY AND EXPERIENCES IN LIFE!! He actually hasn't said anything new or revelatory to me. I started reading this type of material and studying religious thought in the 1970's. Again, nothing new here. (The main reason that most if not all religions have a lot of similarities is because they all deal with the human experience, it's much more important and educational to concentrate on the differences between religions if you are going to do comparitive studies.)
    I also noticed that he had proxie problems in both posts, except at night. Could it be the shlep was posting from work during his lunch break? The time stamps would suggest it, daytime about 30 mins and proxie problems, nightime, no problems, maybe posting from home or perhaps Kinko's? You would think an enlightened soul from a "RULING FAMILY" would have a better ISP.
    Come on now snocbor, don't drink this guys Kool-Aid, it's interesting and thought provoking to be sure, but not unique, just rephrased. Learn to hear what is being said and not be enamored by the way it's being said.
     
  2. DeadHead723

    DeadHead723 Senior Member

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    wow..i am just lost in this thread lol
     
  3. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    This thread RULES
     
  4. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

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    lmao. be careful not to get too lost.

    i think that the single thing that resonated with me the most is this:

     
  5. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    im pretty sure hidden hand never mentioned 9/11 or any acts of violence. your taking about the original posters "insider". there are two very different things happening in this thread. read what i posted written by hidden hand and tell me he is not a man of truth, whether or not you believe (or understand) his story.

    im not really trying to defend the legitamacy of the story here, because i dont need to believe it (or deny it) myself. all im saying is that there is somthing here....
     
  6. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    ...this is what iv come to understand about the nature of creation as well.

    hidden hand shares with us a beautiful attempt to illuminate a concept that is very complicated to communicate.
     
  7. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    an appeal to ignore your intellect? nice.

    If you discover a "truth", and then 5 minutes later discover something that disproves the "truth", this dude wants you to close your eyes, smile, click your heels three times and let your soul level up to believe whatever you want.

    Instead of the obvious answer, which is "Oh, its not a truth".

    You see what he did there? man how are you falling for this crap desos? this is exactly what proselytizers do, this guy just have more flowery language.

    "Believe in the bible!"

    "but the facts are all wrong..."

    "Where did you get the facts from?"

    "from textbooks and science"

    "See! Those are the devil!"

    "How could I have been so stupid!"

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    this thread is filled with little gems
     
  9. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    clearing up some confusion between hidden hand and "the insider"
     
  10. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    no, it is a call to listen to your heart, and to have the strength and courage to follow it.
    im a bit dissapointed in you mr. writer.

    not disprove...test.
    like a heart that feels love is the way, that love heals all.. only to be confronted by a cold harsh encounter with the world. if ones actualization of their realization (virtue) is strong, then they overcome. love prevails in a loving heart.
     
  11. Hydroponic_Acid

    Hydroponic_Acid Member

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    What if his heart says its all complete bullshit?
     
  12. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

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    i'm not saying that passage should be used as truth to justify things that he has said. it is very relavent to most issues in our life as well. things that we discover for ourselves, or believe in.

    for example in my life, right now:

    i have just come from a pretty golden time in my life. i was connecting with all my friends on a very high level, and had pretty much all the girls i could ever ask for. you could say that i came to rely on social connections with other people extremely heavily. and in the aftermath of my acid trip i was even more 'vulnerable'. although i have always been a fan of being self-supportive, i have always been extremely dependant on relationships with other people.

    so how does the world respond to this? well of course it takes it all away from me. some of my frat brother friends give me shit about my current social situation. some of the people who were supposed to be my good friends respond with douchebaggery to my attempts to do things with them by either blowing me off or not responding to my calls at all. the rest of my good friends go out of town on vacation, and my work doesn't schedule me for a whole week. lastly i also had to deal with someone who i absolutely HATE. even being in the same room as them makes me cringe and causes me pain. i mean, it's only been like 5 days... lol. but that is a damn long time for me to be alone. things will be back to normal soon, once everyone gets back from vacation and i start working again, and some more concert dates come along. i just need to put a little effort in to reconstruct my life in a way that actually appeals to me this time.

    i mean what are the chances of all these things happening at one time? it is obviously a test. i'm sure as hell not going to let this take away the divine spark of love and happiness that has blossomed within me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCjT0o37AgY&feature=channel
     
  13. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    then he ought to listen to his heart. lol, simple enough, no?

    not sure what you mean by "its all" though. there is alot happening in this dialog that speaks on a number of different levels. you think its all bullshit?
     
  14. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

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    then listen to it. but in doing so you will have to adhere to one of the philosophies that hidden hand has explained. seems you are in quite a pickle. :D
     
  15. hawaiiankine

    hawaiiankine Senior Member

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    something to relish in. :D
     
  16. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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  17. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    Hidden Hand actually did also mention the very same thing.
     
  18. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

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    yea. it was brief. a short 1 sentence reply to a 1 sentence question.
     
  19. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    One thing that I notice over and over again in these forums is the tendency towards what has been termed "magical thinking". It is characterized by ascribing mystical connotations to almost all aspects and occurrences in life. I do believe that there is an ultimate purpose to our existence, and that we and our reality is much more than it seems to appear. I have also had some very interesting experiences that have changed my view of what I perceive to be true. But sometimes shit just happens, no special meaning, no synchronicity, etc., sometimes things are just what they appear to be. When I was younger I was very hungry for much of the type of thought and ideas that are put forth in these forums. As I have gotten older, married, had kids, yadyada, I realized that while this universe we inhabit is an awe inspiring place and life is full of magic, it's not as mystical as I once believed. It is very easy to find mystery and hidden meanings in the events that happen in life if you are actively seeking them, thats just how the mind works. LSD and other substances can provide insight and open our minds to other levels of possibility, but they due still remain just drug induced states of mind, no more, no less. I don't say that to detract from those experiences, just to root them more accurately. One thing that I have learned is that most of the posters on these forums are young, teens to twenty something. To those of you in this age group bear in mind that there are things and knowledge that can only be acquired by time on the planet. Wisdom truly does come with experience in life. Save some of your posts and look back at them in 10 years, then in twenty years. You may be surprised by how much time and life experience will reshape the "truths" you so firmly attest to now.
    I know I'm a long-winded almost old fart so in closing let me say something I heard from a man whom I greatly respected when I was actively attending his bible studies years ago;
    "Watch out that you don't become so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good."
     
  20. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    almost like he was sneaking that in there....
    he also stated that the earth is hollow, just for the record.
     
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