Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

Can you guess where he got that from?

 

i cut and pasted it from a friend of my uncles that just emailed it to me, but i'd like to know, i didn't look it up.

edit: nm, google found it in the New Yorker.

 

I found it on my Facebook newsfeed.


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facebook's secure server for photos.

 

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That's just the thing. If Tamerlane Tszarnev ( Boston Bomber) HAD been nailed, and the murders / injuries prevented, perhaps all of this survieliance would be a tad more acceptable. ( to some anyway)

There's people here on Hip Forums being careful about what is being posted due to worries about surveillance..... Meanwhile Tszaenev has a Facebook page festooned with jihadist vidieos and links; and The FBI closes out the investigation ?

So we have a surveillance program that is not only intrusive, it is also costly and ineffective. It did not stop the Boston Bombing.

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Exactly.

And about what who ever you quoted said... the.... "so many right wing terrorists sympathizers...no better than Timothy McVeigh..."--- just wanted to comment on that- that I love how when ever people speak out on wanting to keep their constitutional rights/civil liberties and/or speaks out against a gov that currently has a *lying* democratic president...then they are somehow right wing and even support terrorists. Makes a lot of sense.

 

Piney, Terrorism has been made use of as the cause and need for increased surveilance, but the gathering of such an abundance of information is very tempting as to the use that might be made of it, and when caught doing so will place the blame on some rogue employee(s).

American Terrorist, When there are two so diametrically opposed political philosophies, the intent is to denigrate one as much as possible in order to make the other more acceptable. An email I received the other day, from an ex-military friend who lives in Massachusetts, contained an article stating "The problem we face today is that the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.", which pretty much describes how democracies lead to failures.

 

Some of this current revelation is a manifestation of the 'business records' provision of the Patriot Act. Concerns were expressed by people wary of how far-reaching it could become because of its vague wording. Others dismissed such concerns and defended the Patriot Act as innocuous and nothing to worry about.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_new...provision-to-collect-us-citizens-records?lite

"From the earliest days of the Patriot Act, Section 215 was among the most hotly disputed of its provisions. Critics charged the language – “tangible things” -- was so broad that it would even permit the FBI to obtain library and bookstore records to inspect what citizens were reading."

 

Notice how all of this public relations jockeying was clustered around the time when Obama was meeting with the Chinese President. Right before the meeting, the U.S. government put on a big public relations crap-fest about how China had supposedly hacked into the U.S. military system and stole tens of billions of dollars of secrets. The Snowden revelations came after that, accusing the U.S. government of doing similar things.

 

So now Snowden is telling Communist China that the U.S. has been hacking their computers for years. Just when Obama is trying to get China to stop hacking U.S. computers, Snowden gives the enemy some ammunition. It's called "espionage", treason. 54% in this country think Snowden is a hero. When the majority agree with treason, it's not long before we'll be speaking Chinese. That's how the Roman empire fell, stupidity from within.

 

Just thought I would share this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...c-spying-program-makes-xbox-one-even-scarier/

Now go and enjoyr Xbox

 

That Kinect camera always freaked me out a bit. I keep it unplugged.

 

Much like some of the arguments posed by the Anti-Federalists relating to how some parts of the U.S. Constitution might come to be more broadly interpreted and put to misuse in the future, assured by the Federalists that such would not occur.

 

Cops have been fighting criminals since the 30's, by tracing phone calls, and using wire taps. So which side are you on?

 

Im going to put ron the infidel and his boyfriend in the hospital. I might just blow up his fucking car, or shoot them both in the face, so their mommas dont recognize them..

take that to the fucking bank NSA!!!

 

George W. Bush--Patriot Act For Laughing at citizens

 

Snowden has got to be the messiah of the republican party. He has done in one week, what the cons have been trying to accomplish for four and a half years. For the first time, Obama's approval rating is below 50%.

 

This is how you change things the correct way.....

Bernie Sanders introduced legislation to overhaul the law that the National Security Agency used to obtain hundreds of millions of U.S. phone records. This massive data collection program relies on the USA Patriot Act -- which Bernie has consistently voted against -- to justify secret court orders authorizing wholesale collection of telephone records.

“Intelligence agencies and law enforcement need strong and effective tools to combat terrorism, but we can do that without living in an Orwellian world where the government and private corporations know every telephone call that we make, every website we visit, everyplace we go,” said Bernie, who quoted the Fourth Amendment during a Senate speech.

• Watch Bernie's Senate speech »
• Read Bernie's legislation »
• Watch Bernie on MSNBC »
• Washington Post publishes NSA briefing slides »

 

You know what I find the most amazing out of all this.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and a Syria in progress. Literally millions of innocent civilians killed, families destroyed, children yet to be born that will suffer from birth defects, entire economies collapsed and the enviroment poisoned so toxically that nothing will ever grow again.

But the people of the UK and America are going Willy-nilly that our governments are spying on their naughty facebook conversation and google porn searches.

If somone, something or some organisation can find it easy to wreak havoc, terriable violence and oppression upon others... Then what makes anyone believe that it sooner or later won't happen to them too? The time to have cared was more than a decade ago and from this day on things are only going to get worst. This spy scandal is only the begining and it's going to get a lot worse.

Sure enough ther's a new form of concentration (or re-education) camps on the near horizon. But in the mean time the people of the UK are going to just keep smiling and braging about how Tesco has polish beer and porkies on special.

 

Firing pin, meet shell. Cheney called Snowden a traitor. Snowden said that's the highest honor an American can get.