Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

I'm not sure where you got the idea it was rejected...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/09/queen_speech_ccdp/

A Home Office document about the proposed draft bill [PDF] stated that an updated framework to aid the "lawful, efficient and effective obtaining of communications data by authorised public authorities including law enforcement and intelligence agencies" would be established.

It added that safeguards such as imposing a 12-month limit on the length of time such private data could be retained by communication service providers would be proposed. The Information Commissioner Christopher Graham will be tasked with reviewing such data retention plans.


You could say they are doing it right under our noses and are clear and transparent about it... :bobby:

 

I'm in my early 20s and I remember a time when there was no CCTVs on my street. No one did anything to stop them being installed.

But there certainly more than enough people with something to say when I wear my burka or niqab.
If you ask me, most people want to be slaves and are hostile towards anyone that doesn't want to be one.

 

How many are on your street watching you (people going about their daily business)?

 

I stopped counting when I got to 25 cameras. Afterall I don't want it to appear that I'm plotting something dodgy by counting them.

As for the people on the street watching. Well it depends on the time of day but none of them are photographing me and creating a database.

Here's something I found for you yanks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/us/monitoring-of-snail-mail.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&pagewanted=all&

Now I'll bet you that they have something similar here in the UK.



In the end no one is going to do a thing... So neither am I

 

Resistance isn't futile

Do you live on a residential street or above a shop/in amongst the High St?
Are you talking about the shop-owners security CCTV pointing towards their shops? I didn't mean people were watching you. I meant the CCTV looking at people going about their daily business on your street. I struggle to believe there are over 25 CCTV cameras watching people on the pavements etc.
If there are why are they not on my street?

 

I'm on a mostly residential street and the cameras I counted also included the lollypop's shoulder cam and any from the nearby tube station

My friend Lara lives not too far from a massage parlor and there's only 1 camera near there. But near the mosque I go to there's at least 3.
I think that speaks for something right there.

 

Our articles say entirely the same thing, the UK government canned it because of the costs, and passed the responsibility to the telecoms. The difference isn't incidental, and I suspect telecoms will not be raring to spend millions on data storage centers, and pass the price onto the customer.

What will happen instead is logging of traffic which matches certain criteria by the telecoms, and if the UK government requests it within a year, will have access to it. The difference are not incidental, only certain traffic logged, second party to act as checks and balances, time limits on the amount of time requests are stored.

 

This news report pretty much confirms what I already believed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXJNlNGN238&list=UU5gtqdJOvhGdh-6WRO2CTpw"]EU-US fallout over spying claims: Lip service or real diplomatic crisis? - YouTube

 

lode

I see what you mean:

Officials originally considered storing all the new data in one central government warehouse, but by the time the consultation was published in June had rejected this idea on privacy grounds, preferring to outsource storage to industry. Configuration of the probes would be the responsibility of GCHQ, the Cheltenham-based electronic intelligence agency.

I thought you meant: Communications Capabilities Development Programme

#doh!

 

Not really 'on your street' then...

I doubt anybody is going to do anything about security camera's on the underground system, no...

 

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

Terror Alert Orange! Begin to panic!

Don't think, don't question, just shut up and do what I tell you to do.

In my humble opinion, it is that a lot of people are ignorant and asleep: some would rather live the American Dream.

 

What an amusing coincidence, given the name that you have chosen to go by here.

 

The point is that I could still count that many cameras and let's be honest. They're not preventing crime or even leading to more convictions.

So why bother?

I'm not a martyr and have no desire to become one.
Someone would have to be blooming daft to stick their neck out for those that could care less.

When the average person on the street starts to care about something other than their "facebook" friends and Internet porn... Only then will I stand up and be counted.
And I'm sorry but I don't consider the Guy Fawkes mask wearing gang a viable resistance.
In fact I have yet to meet a single Internet activist that didn't strike me as being but a coward and a poor excuse for a lady's hairdresser.

Internet activism plus 50p won't even buy a yorkie.

 

There are some studies out there regarding the effectiveness of CCTV. I have not read any that suggest otherwise. There most certainly have been more convictions, that's just common sense.
If you want to wear a Burqa to hide from the CCTV that line the whole of your street, watching your every move. Fair enough.

What does that mean?

 

......:2thumbsup:



Cheers Glen.

 

If convictions are going up it has nothing to do with CCTV and everything to do with the prison system making some money off the inmates.
A gentleman that lives across the street from my flat says he was put in jail for 9 months for a first offense of possion pot. In prison he had to assemble those handheld food mixers. (The kind they sell in ASDA)

Did you read this ?
http://washingtonexaminer.com/state-department-bureau-spent-630000-on-facebook-likes/article/2532629

State Department bureau spent $630,000 on Facebook 'likes'

I knew it was all fake!!!

 

Well yeah, nobody likes the State Department.

 

Well that's the problem with the Internet. It's 80% fake, 10% Pillocks, 5% useful and the rest is anybody's guess.

 

...compared to cable television that's not too bad.

 

Have you tried spreading awareness? Have you offered any incentive for others to care about what you're talking about?

Having a group of hackers on your side isn't really such a bad thing, but the scope of their influence is limited, obviously.