Returning america back to its roots

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by DarthDva, Feb 7, 2021.

  1. mommas man

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    All of what? They themselves say that they don't own the land. So you give all of it back to nobody? And what do you do with all the people living on the nobody tribes land?
     
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    Corporate US will need to pay 'rent' for the land they occupy to the Tribes - back-dated of course !!! which would mean the Tribes could become exceedingly wealthy !!!
     
  3. DarthDva

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    That's just as bad as stealing the land from them in the first place. Your sense of justice is doing the same crime as before, but to even more people than before? Punishing people for their ancestors crimes is very psychopathic. Kim Jong Un does that and hes backwards.

    Casinos are owned by Native Americans as some form or restitution. Whatever they are doing doesn't seem to be working that well because a lot of Native Americans are in poverty still. I don't know what they are doing, but wealth inequality is a large problem in america, the 1% hoard all the money and it should be given to ALL americans.

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    “Incels display very high levels of mental health issues. They display high levels of a history of bullying. This is a movement that is desperately sad. At the same time, Incel violence is ideological violence against civilians, to prove an ideological point or create psychological fear. That makes it terrorism.”
    The Isla Vista shooter made clear in his manifesto that he wanted to make women afraid.
    “Though misogynist incels are often perceived as a movement without political aims, violent perpetrators have the same type of far-reaching aims that white nationalists have: to completely change the culture and politics of society to favor their own group,” she and her co-authors wrote in a February report.

    “This is an ideology. It’s not a psychological disorder,” she said. “There’s a lot of undue sympathy.”

    The misogynist incel movement is spreading. Should it be classified as a terror threat?
    Misogynist Incels and Male Supremacism
     
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  5. DarthDva

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    You sound as backwards as the racists who act like being black automatically makes them a criminal.

    Incel is a state of being. Of course some incels have a tendency for violence after they have been bereft of empathy from their community. That doesn't mean 100% of incels are violent. You are no better than the racists who claimed blacks didn't deserve rights simply because MalcomX was a terrorist. Lets see how you like it while being born black and everyone is paranoid of you and clutches their purses when in an elevator with you automatically. Or if a 20 something virgin and people automatically hate you for that.
     
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  6. Tishomingo

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    You paint a picture of idyllic rural life, but your jaundiceded view of reality suggests educational deficiencies and uncritical thought patterns. Have you thought of getting professional help?
     
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  7. Tishomingo

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    Prostitution was made illegal between 1910 and 1915 largely due to the influence of the Woman's Christian Temperance Union, which was influential in banning of drug use and was a major force in the prohibition of alcohol.

    I thought circumcision was introduced by the Egyptians, Jews and Canaanites. For the Jews, it was a sign of their covenant with God. I wouldn't call people who support it for religious reasons "evil or backwards". People might suspect you're an Antisemite.
    Medical reasons for circumcision might include prevention of recurrent balanitis, phimosis, or treatment of paraphimosis..
     
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  8. DarthDva

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    Jews are evolving, secular jews becoming more common instead of the old and primitive ways. Unfortunately there are backwards whites and jews who still do primitive superstitious genital mutilations, and defending their backwardness with ridiculous labels such as "antisemite" to defend their backwards beliefs. Jews are just one brand of semite, there are other semites such as Muslims, so the term doesn't even make sense in this particular context (Do muslims circumcise? I don't think so but if they do I did not know that.)
     
  9. DarthDva

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    There are probably a lot of backwards third-world societies that still perform backwards and primitive genital mutilations, that doesn't mean I have to be okay with their societies all in the name of modernity and multiculturalism. Have you thought about that before making baseless accusations? I am not gonna defend human rights violations like genital mutilations just to appear politically correct for liberals. No amount of psuedoscience will justify such operations either. Europe seems healthy and fine without such nonsense. Defending backwards superstitions like genital mutilation is the very definition of uncritical thought. And no shit that circumcision was invented before Kellogg. I figured I'd blame Kellogg instead of jews so that raging libs wouldn't accuse me of things, yet here we are anyway. Can't win with raging libs.
     
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  10. Tishomingo

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    Muslims are the largest single religious group to circumcise boys. BBC - Religions - Islam: Circumcision of boys It is more a cultural or customary requirement than a religious one. For Jews, the Torah prescribes it as a mark of Abraham's covenant with God. From a practical standpoint, it set Jews apart from the Assyrians and Babylonians and helped them survive as a people and a religion. You may not think that's important, but nobody made you queen of the world. In the U.S. in the twentieth century, a majority of males were circumcised because medical opinion favored it to reduce urinary tract infections and penile cancer. The thinking now is that it's unnecessary. But why is it such a big deal for you? You sound like preventing it is some kind of holy cause. That's okay, if it helps to give you a sense of identity and importance. But you sound as though your opinion is the only one allowed and that anybody who has a different one is primitive, backward, ignorant , ridiculous, etc. Why is it so important to you? As for "raging libs", they tend to be the ones who are on your side of the circumcision issue. And for you to call anyone "raging" sounds pot and kettle. BTW, what do you think of body piercing, tatoos, nipple rings, etc.?
     
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  11. Tishomingo

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  12. DarthDva

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    Sorry to rain on your parade, but...

    The Easter Bunny is not real, Santa Claus does not exist, and circumcision is a human rights violation.

    Appeals to tradition don't work on me.
     
  13. Tishomingo

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    In your mind.

    As the man says, nobody cares!
     
  14. DarthDva

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    Prepare to get steamrolled by centrism, as, as you stated earlier, even libs (and some leftists) don't agree with your backwards views.
     
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    I have every right to rage if some doctor mutilates me or other people against mine or their consent. You on the other hand do not have a right to defend such backwards policies.
     
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    I am fond of some porn stars who have tattoos but my bias doesn't influence my policy. Generally speaking in my society tattoos would maybe at most be illegal but at most it would be a minor misdemeanor. It would at most be frowned upon but not really a big crime.Tattoos aren't really violating anyone's consent and aren't really a big deal. It's not equal to attacking innocent people's genitals with knives against their consent, which is what circumcision is. If tattoos became illegal it would because the city needs aesthetic harmony and tattoos might interfere with that cohesion. Not really a big deal and I wouldn't really get mad with the Committee voting to make tattoos legal. As far as consensual circumcision in a medical emergency that's fine. As far as brainwashing kids using religion to mutilate themselves, that is totally not ok.
     
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  17. Tishomingo

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    So do you have a dick? Your avatar would suggest that you don't, in which case your passion on this issue is puzzling. You can rage all you want and see how far it gets you. But so far you haven't shown there's a problem. Calling it backward, primitive, etc., isn't an argument. And until you show that this "backward" policy is a problem, I'll defend it to my heart's content. I have as much right to my opinions as you do.
     
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  18. Tishomingo

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    Most guys who have had their genitals attacked with knives against their consent don't give a rats ass about this issue. Why do you? When you speak of "brainwashing kids using religion to mutilate themselves", you seem to be talking about Judaism and Islam. Some folks think religious liberty is an important value, and think people who want to interfere with it because they find this or that aspect offensive need to be resisted. Historically, circumcision has been an important part of Jewish religious identity. I seriously doubt you'll be able to get rid of it without a fight.
     
  19. DarthDva

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    I am trans.

    Noone with a rational mind thinks you have an argument. Babies are sentient. Noone with a rational mind thinks genital mutilation is acceptable. When someone's argument is that "doctors should have the right to mutilate penis against any person's consent" its hard to know what exact words would convince someone that backwards that they are backwards. Anyone with a rational mind wouldn't spend time trying to debate such nonsense. It would be like trying to convince some ancient south american that human sacrifice is wrong. The idea of human sacrifice is inherently backwards to begin with, so trying to convince them its backwards will be very difficult. Its also wrong and immoral to brainwash kids into ancient south american human sacrifice rituals, if they consent to that its not real consent but manufactured brainwashed consent, like that indiana jones movie with that brainwashed kid. Trying to say that its okay because of tradition is inherently nonsensical.
     
  20. Tishomingo

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    Au contraire. Lots of rational people, including plenty who have been circumcised, think this is a non-issue. Only a small fringe group is concerned about it. Babies are sentient, but don't seem to remember the event. To compare circumcision to human sacrifice is quite a stretch, and doesn't comport with rationality. So far, there's no compelling evidence that it does substantial harm.
     
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