Retribution In Our Justice System.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Sep 26, 2024.

  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    My street law teacher in HS explained it to us. For retribution to be used correctly in our justice system, it would have to be an eye for an eye. Because if you did some horrible crime to someone, what would be the point in just putting you in a prison cell? Or, if you caused a lot of suffering to someone, what would be the point? In just making you suffer just half the pain your victim did? Or even most of the pain, let's say 75%? An eye for an eye as punishments for crimes hasn't existed since the time of George Washington and the French Revolution, When they started the prison reform movement in most countries.

    And as George Savile the Marquess of Halifax said in 1750, "Men are not hanged for stealing horses, but that horses may not be stolen." Because there was a rash of horse thievery in England at the time. And Parliament passed a law making that crime punishable by death. But George Savile joked in that quote, it wasn't about the rights of horses. But as a deterrent to make people think twice about committing that crime.
     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Retribution in this context assumes that the purpose of the justice system is to administer punishment equal to the crime committed.
    It ignores the fact that the justice system may be interested in protecting the public or rehabilitating the law breaker. Not just inflicting an equal amount of pain.
     
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    Let's not overlook the enervating elements of the theatrical in play for discerning minds.
     
  4. Jimbee68

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    Also, you know, about 20 years ago they were talking about this subject. I think it was on ABC's "Primetime Live". In some states, when a prisoner thinks he has been abused in prison, he can file a complaint. But, the piece said, in some states prisoners were abusing this right. One prisoner, they said, claimed that a prison guard was punching him. When they investigated, they found that the guard was punching him in self defense, because the guard feared for his life at that point. So, the piece said, prisoners should lose the right to file complaints. Or at least it should be limited.

    I was thinking at the time though. That probably would be a very bad idea. Plus you know, if someone files any false legal complaint, that is always a form of obstruction of justice. Also, if a person is filing too many complaints, or if they all seem pointless and baseless, that can be an offense too. It's called barratry, or abuse of process. But I don't think prisoners should completely lose the right to file complaints. Plus, as I thought at the time. They are in a very vulnerable position, already having their movement and access to the outsider world limited. They should always have a way of reporting any abuse.
     
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