Respect the gender spectrum

Ah well, that's just your opinion, like an asshole, everybody has one and you're nobody to justify your opinion on anybody else, so no matter what you say and believe you've no right to tell people or enforce people what you believe and if you think so, you're a hypocrite. That's something you've never been able to understand though so I know it falls on deaf ears.

And anybody else who feels like they can put down another human being for having their individual human thoughts and opinion on the matter should be ashamed of themselves. Nobody should have to give up their security and comfort to conform to what YOU believe, so I believe it's yourselves that need to get over it, not anybody with thay conviction way of thinking. They're protecting themselves and you aren't anybody to suggest how they should go about that.

 

You mispelled paralympics, then explained when they are held

When its signed "The editors" its an op ed piece

This is when the left starts to sound like the far right. No one has sexual intent in a pubiic bathroom?

If you dont want to pee with men, pee at home????

That Bill Nye video felt more like Tony Robbins or a Hillsong church presentation

 

Straight people assuming the responsibilities, emotions and opinions of a lesbian.

Shake my head and roll my eyes.

In the year 2019, do straight lives even matter?

 

The issue is not about men in general anyway, as its already the norm they stay the fuck out of woman's bathrooms. So the only concern is about male to female transgenders, and then mainly in specific situations. If transgendered well the women will hardly notice a 'man' went peeing in the same bathroom they were in. So yeah, unfocusedanakins opinion is 'just an opinion', but so is Irms wifes conviction on this. About men in general I would say sure. Being frantic about the idea if some transgenders or hermaphrodites might use the same public bathroom as you I would say deal with it. Some really didn't ask to be inbetween this.

 

Good video.

 

I have the feeling this is not only about this issue. Its a load of hypocrite crud from your side anyway: you express your opinions on other peoples thoughts and actions in a similar way when you disagree. You just have a thing against unfocusedanakin because he connects racism and fascism (the only thing he's intolerant about) to stuff you said or value. In a way that you find offensive lol

 

yeah i'm big enough to know i'm a hypocrite, that doesn't phase me, nobody is any better.
he picks on me, i pick on him. i wouldn't read too much into it. just a couple of people having a banter the way i see it. we've poked fun at each other in other threads. -shrug-

 

I think the catch is -

Irm's wife's opinion is important but so is the opinion and feelings of a transgender who is afraid of getting ..er, her ass kicked because she's dressed like a woman but pulls out a penis to pee in a men's restroom

Not a situation with an easily solution, installing family/unisex restrooms can be costly for businesses that don't already have them

 

The easy solution would be for people to mind their own business when they're going to the bathroom.

 

When I was in 2nd grade Jenny showed me how she peed. My parents had never had a real discussion with me about the differences between boys and girls so I thought she was deformed or something. I felt sorry for her.

 

The thing is he 'picks' on a certain issue. Not you. He is intolerant against people who display fascistic and discriminating convictions (you know, convictions that exclude and hurt others when acted upon), you act like he's intolerant against people like you for having a controversial opinion.
And you also act like the intolerance against real fascism and discrimination for no good reason is as bad as the intolerance that comes of people with fascistic and discriminating convictions.. like ooh he's judging someone else just for their thoughts, look he's nothing better than an intolerant racist. Uhm no. The intolerance against awful discrimination is not as bad as the intolerance against (perhaps unnuanced and sometimes overly preachy) 'SJWs'. I'm sorry I blurt this out in this thread, but really i was meaning to post something like this for awhile. Banter btw is usually done between friends. If you two are picking on eachother I wouldn't call it banter. It's usually also about serious topics.

 

I've been hanging on to this one for a while, since Asmo brought it up, it seems like a good time to share

 

Meh, this is make believe arguing on an internet forum on a scenario that has a very slim chance of happening.

In real life, the opinion of Irms wife would be the only one that would matter.

Irms and her wife were at a musical festival or something, MTF trans walks in to the womens bathroom when they are in there, theres a scene.

For some reason they have brought Asmo and Unfocused along with them. lol, what do you think Asmo and Unfocused would be able to do about it?

Theres a bit of that going on, they are both male and straight, and edging 40....no dudes, your opinion doesnt really count on such matters

 

It upsets me that you guys would hang on to things waiting for an opportunistic moment to try and kick me in the guts, but whatevs.

Secondly, if him and I are having argument then it's between us so please don't feel the need to stick yourself in the middle and try and tell me what he thinks and what I think, the onus is on me to interpret what he says and if I don't interpret that the way you do, then big deal.

Thirdly, please done feel the need to dissect everything I say either, despite what YOU think, I actually like the guy. He's passionate in what he believes which is big for me, doesn't matter if I don't agree with it, I guess I just don't know too much about him but from what I know he goes or went to concerts a lot, I can dig dudes into that. He games, I can dig dudes into that too, so really you're just reading too much into things, trying to dissect what isn't there.

A good case of stick with the program, or mind your own business me thinks.

 

No, there's never been a scene between my wife and the trans person in a toilet, I just know she feels more comfortable with females in the toilet. As does my sister and her younger daughter and I do believe that, if people are uncomfortable then there's a problem and I don't think someone can sit there and say well their feelings don't count, because that's just rubbish.

 

If you're talking about me (assuming you are because I used the terminology "hanging on"), then you're taking something personally that wasnt remotely directed at you

I meant, i saw it a few weeks ago, liked it, saved it.

It comes up a lot on HF - " why doesnt the tolerant left tolerate racists?"
So it made me think of hipforums.
Asmo brought it up in a general way, i shared it. Has nothing to do with you. I just liked it and now i'm sharing it

 

Yups, same here. I connect it to Irms because she brought that argument up several times (people intolerant of fascism and discrimination being just as bad and intolerant as those discriminating people), and here somehow my reaction came out. She can't fool anyone its just banter. It's used several times in serious convos and also several times against unfocusedanakin in particular. If the remark was here in jest/ment as banter that hardly matters. My reaction is not personal. It's because I saw that intolerance bull a bit too often.

 

I don't share my opinion because I feel it counts just as much where it comes to woman's bathroom matters. I just share it because I'm reading this thread and have it.

If you think I would involve myself at a music festival in some drama like this you're really off. I can't see me side with either party at first instance, but most importantly wouldn't feel any need or responsibility either. Unless perhaps either one would be disproportionally beaten up or something. Which of course is already a slightly different situation

 

You dont think the feelings of the MTF trans person matter when they find out they cant pee in the men or the women's bathroom because both parties are uncomfortable?

You dont really have to answer that, you're right of course that this is a hypothetical situation that isnt likely to happen (.03 % of the population) and i'm starting to feel a little ridiculous even having it lol

Chances are if some little trans person dolled themselves up and was dressed very feminine, no one would notice anyways. Its only the ones who are taller than 5'10 that you really notice

 

And ummm yall know we pee behind closed doors in the women's bathroom?

It's not a group activity.