Respect the gender spectrum

I hope (for your sake) you're exegerating stuff here because if not, you're worrying over pretty much a nonissue. I assume you choose to make it such a big deal though.

Its 100% certain he doesn't take the course for that, so the question doesn't really make sense.

 

To state the obvious: you having this opinion is fine. But can you explain why you are making such an issue of people who see this differently? Often (but not only) the people who have a direct use for the nuancations made. Just because they're a tiny tiny minority doesn't mean they often really fall in between these 2 genders. You don't have to acknowledge the extra terms but why exactly rally so hard against it? What's the exact and real concern?

So do you think this particular example is typical for transgenders or hermaphrodites etc? If not, and i may hope so because you would be wrong, so what?

 

I speak from experience as I actually had to work with one at an office job. This person would get irked whenever we addressed her with she/her or he/him pronouns. She was a biological female, but had a man's name and a manly haircut who demanded they/them pronouns.

He said "we haven't really talked about pronouns in my course." So I was just wondering if he has his own opinions, or that of his professors.

 

So this person asked you to refer to them by they/them pronouns and then acted annoyed when you didn't?

 

I would not have said biologically speaking...maybe psychologically speaking. Are there physiological differences between a man and a trans-dude?

 

So after this came up a few times what was the big deal that you had to ignore that persons preference? Don't you think if you were in her/his position you would be annoyed if people couldn't be bothered to make this little adjustement for one person, a fellow employee?
Don't get me wrong, im not asking why you would find it silly to do. I get that. But why insist not doing it and making it an unneccesary big issue. Does it take something away from you?

 

I learned the hard way. She (I mean they) got bitchy when I called them she. Then went and told the boss about it and I got lectured about it. Because they were childish I merely avoided them when I could from that point on. (Ugh, they/them pronouns sometimes don't work very well to describe a singular person)

This is the problem with having multiple pronouns. The English language has been spoken with gender specific pronouns for centuries. And it's inconvenient to ask every single person what pronouns we are supposed to use, before any interaction.

 

This ongoing quibbling over genders is exemplary of why the space aliens will never visit us.

 

Oh my, the inconvenience! It certainly rivals the inconvenience of being part of that 0,03% don't you think?

 

We would most likely just be harvested for food so suits me.

 

I guess I don't see it as quite the problem, because language changes. I do agree that it is not fair when people who want to use non-traditional pronouns get irritated if you "assume" their preferred pronouns. I think they have a responsibility to respectfully tell you their preferred pronouns up front, and to be patient and tolerant if you make an honest mistake.

On the other hand, I think it is disrespectful to purposefully refuse to call someone by a preferred pronoun, even after they have kindly asked you to refer to them in their preferred way.

 

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Well put.

Agreed, and as I read 6-eyeds post that person did this. He just got annoyed.

 

I actually got my head torn off my a non-binary person who I unknowingly misgendered. It was strange because she was obviously a biological female, and made no effort to dress or act masculine (claimed to be gender fluid). In retrospect, I think she was a bit unstable.

But the vast majority of trans folks that I have encountered have been patient, stable, and reasonable people. I respect anyone who respects me.

 

Put it this way, if you want to be called they/them, don't get offended when people who never met you call you he/she. Please be tactful and let them know what you want to be called without throwing a bitch fit. However there are plenty of other made-up pronouns like this bullshit on some of these rows that I will never use:

 

That's one thing, but why get your proverbial panties so in a twist because other people simply find they have more use for it than you?

 

We had to take a class on sexual harrassment at work the other day. Purposely calling someone by a different pronoun than what they've requested is now considered sexually harrassment at my job.

Which makes sense because I think if someone asks you to call them one thing and you deliberately and continuously call them something else, you're just doing it to be a dick

But really i think people make way too big of a deal out of this sort of thing. As was pointed out, transgendered people make up .03 % of the population so how often are you going to come across this situation. Just call them by what they prefer, or call them by their name and avoid pronouns altogether, and get on with your life. it isnt that serious

 

You have two links in your first post

The first was written by a PhD, but doesnt really say anything, is just a page filler

The second is just an op ed piece, again very light on the detail

 

Because the fact that transgenders and transexuals have been around for eons, the whole controversy of pronouns is new and pointless. It is clearly a manufactured one to push further pointless arguments just like this one. The fact that some laws and workplace policies consider misgendering someone is an act of violence or harassment regardless whether it’s by accident or on purpose. This is madness. If I was an employer and my company could risk lawsuits if a transgender employee was misgendered, there’s no way in hell I’d employ one. It’s too risky. These rules and laws make employability a real problem for trans people who need work.

 

Its not just him though, does seem to be everywhere. This issue getting a lot more attention nowadays from people on both sides of the argument

There are reasons for that, causes that come from beyond the issue itself