Respect the gender spectrum

Thank you for your reply.

I would have to disagree about the college not doing much to back up its bluster. We had a speaker come out against LGBTQ in some ways one time; guy from Hollywood (he was in some movie with Edward James Olmos if memory serves... can't remember what it was right now or I'd tell you who he was). Anyway it caused the biggest uproar I've ever experienced on a college campus! About 100 people stood up and walked out of the assembly. The guy had begun preaching about Hollywood shoving LGBTQ sexuality down our throats. Some of the instructors stood up for the LGBTQ and told the guy he was wrong and that they were ashamed of him and all this and that.

That and they've designated certain "gender neutral" bathrooms on at least one campus in my area. It's next to nothing, but at least it's a start.

One of the two campuses I attend is better than the other. The vibe on campus actually fairly inclusive; especially in the social science classes. I did take a class in Comm. where I wasn't certain about the teacher's position on e.g. Trump or the border.

Many of my classes have been in Sociology where we enjoy a very friendly perspective on gender, lgbtq, and race-ethnicity. Perhaps I'm as some would say living in my own little echo chamber, but I feel like it fosters a better outlook for me.

Thanks again for your reply VG.

 

The vibe on campus fairly inclusive was it?

Social science students hanging out, intermingling with the engineering students, compsci students all the time, equally were they?

 

Not exactly, but there seems to be a social vibe at one of the campuses. I think what I noticed the most was the willingness of teachers to stand up for LGBTQ against the guy who was ranting in a homophobic way. But on the day that happened, the first person to stand up and say something to that presenter was a student. He was saying something about transgender people and I don't know the person or what their gender was, but they stood up, said something to the guy, and walked out. Then a teacher stood up to him too. Then a whole slew of people walked out of the assembly.

Aside from that I guess I'd say it's a normal college campus for the most part; perhaps a little more social than other campuses I've attended though.

 

Real men do everything. There is no such thing as a "fake man." Even cowards are men. That is the human condition.

 

So how many students in your entire college, all disciplines?

And how many transgender students?

If the answer to the second question is zero. Dont you think its all perhaps a little bit ridiculous, why so much effort into a cause, when you dont have ant trans students anyway?

 

The sociology class makes sense, and defending transgenders in public after someone said something discriminating as well imo. A third bathroom for a kind of student that's not there is indeed pointless.

 

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I don't know the answer to either question, but as far as the transgender students, I don't know anyone. I used to know of one transgender individual in the circle of friends I used drugs with, but I stopped hanging out with anyone who used when I got sober so I don't know what happened with her.

OK I looked it up, but the answer is 9 years old (lol)! There were about 13,000 students (it's a community college) at the school in question in 2010.


I don't think it's too ridiculous. To be honest, I think it's a responsibility and I'm proud of my little school for doing as much as they have particularly to include so much about LGBTQ and gender in the curriculum. I feel like I'm at least a little bit better equipped to make informed decisions in my mind about the issues like the transgender ban in the military, don't ask don't tell (blast from the past... i know), or perhaps the plight of same sex couples who wish to adopt (they are frequently held to a higher standard in the U.S. than are heterosexual couples).

 

I thought about that a bit. What they actually have done is designated all gender bathrooms. So in addition to having the binary men's and women's restrooms there are also established gender neutral bathrooms with like one toilet and a locking door or something along those lines. I've used one on campus before I knew it was an all gender bathroom. It's just like a men's room but without a urinal.

 

But there's little point, don't you agree. It's symbolic at best. Whereas countering a discriminating person in public or having a course spend on it in sociology actually has use.

 

Who is anyone to tell somebody they need to respect something or someone?

Last I checked this was a free country... well, not really, but..

There is no gender spectrum. That is just made up nonsense. I refuse to respect nonsense.

 

Oh, and I could not give a shit about what people do with their private lives, who they fuck, or what made up gender they call themselves. Where I have a problem is that I have to respect and adhere to your own personal belief system. Most people don't really give a shit about other people's personal ideologies (except lefties), but rather those ideologies being shoved down people's throats.

 

Could be anyone. Awhile ago people were arguing for respecting/accepting homosexuality. It's clear it helped. How nasty

I don't think certain folks finding the idea of a gender spectrum nonsense is an issue. It's more about not getting weird or agressive (incl. verbally) if a 'normal' person takes notice of a transgender.

 

i only respect walk.

 

There is the physical body and the mind. Science has not fully understood the mind yet. Like what is "thought". I am referring more to that.

There is a spectrum. What degrees do you have in a scientific field? Those that do say there are. So you either deny science or accept people do things you don't like. With some of your views on other topics my guess is you will ignore science.

I am a member of the human race so it's fair enough I demand of you respect for other humans. If you don't like it sure it is a free country. That is why you are not in prison for writting what you did.

 

I think that there is a point at which it becomes humanitarian to offer a more gender neutral environment; particularly a bathroom that isn't a political faux pas nightmare.

When I witnessed the group come to the defense of the LGBTQ/Trans community it was a little bit of a wake up call for me. It was akin to something you would see here on the internet, but not something I'm used to seeing people actually do in real life. It made me feel like there's hope of a future for all people.

Anyway I agree with what you're saying primarily, but I do think the bathrooms put a little bit of action as a foundation to stand and speak upon.

 

The truth is that women aren’t men, and therefore no man can logically get away with identitying himself as a woman. Thus trans-women aren’t women.

The social justice left will go around in circles in denial as they keep putting men in women’s jails, trans-women in women’s sports, then after the inevitable disasters and controversies that follow, will finally conclude that men aren’t women, and there is no gender spectrum.