Republican Justice Scalia Says Blacks Are Inferior

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  1. rjhangover

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  2. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I heard that yesterday. He said Blacks need to attend slower schools. The Repubs always remind me of The House of Lords in the UK, where the ordinary people get The House of Commons for representation in government. Jim Hightower said, "They think they are the top dogs and the rest of us are the fire hydrants!"
     
  3. ElEyeJaw

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    Calling someone a bigot isn't an argument of any type, it's just resorting to name calling. That's all
     
  4. rjhangover

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    Well I guess we all owe Hitler an apology for calling him a murderer.
     
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  5. badphotoguy

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    I thought Supreme Court Justices weren't supposed to make public statements.
     
  6. soulcompromise

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    That does seem to be a bit narrow minded. He's saying that slower students do well at slower colleges, but he's also saying that black people are all slow? Not true.

    Every person is different. That's what should have been said.
     
  7. GeorgeJetStoned

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    I remember when Rehnquist moved up and Scalia was pulled in, by a unanimous vote in the senate and little opposition in the house. Democrats didn't object to him because he's a hard line pragmatist who doesn't lie, an excellent quality for an associate justice. But this isn't the first time his grasp of the ultimate truth has cause grief. He doesn't sugar coat anything for the sake of people's "feelings". Scalia was one of the few good things to come from the Reagan years.

    While nobody wants to hear the honest side of the plight of black Americans in our schools, it needs to be discussed. For a long time the black high school dropout rate has been double that of white or Hispanic students. In college it's even worse. Even with a healthy dose of grant money and grade forgiveness this problem has not fluctuated much in the last 20 years. None of this is proof of racism or black inferiority, but that is the general assumption. The cultural reasons are usually overlooked because they are difficult to pack into a tight argument.

    Since I had to graduate from a "lesser school", I fail to see what the problem here is. If my grades were better, I could have gone to a better college, but they weren't. But at least I had that option as do most other Americans. If there aren't "enough" black Americans in the upper tier colleges, they need to hit the books. It's that simple. The alternative is to push them in anyway and hope for the best, which is absolute foolishness. It can only lead to despair which sows the seeds of anger at a system that has clearly failed them. If a student has not actually earned, by grades, a seat in an upper tier school, they should not have it gifted to them just to make us all feel better about the state of the nation.

    I think Scalia's words have been skewed by the press, but not much. He isn't lying about lesser and slower schools, they exist. And they serve more Americans than the elite universities. That's just reality. The other reality is that we can't expect anyone to be a brain surgeon, only a narrow cross section of the population has the motivation, intelligence or drive to reach such a lofty goal. Color has nothing to do with that or we wouldn't have any black brain surgeons at all. And racism isn't the cause or we wouldn't have any black college grads either.

    The article you have linked clearly states that the press distorted this whole issue so they could scare up yet another racism/bigotry story for more ad views. I can see where Scalia's words might get some people upset, but he is not lying nor is he saying that black people are inferior. He did not say that. Sure, there's a black education problem in the US, but it's not Scalia's opinion that has caused this. The bulk of it has come from government "feel good" programs that have failed since the 60s. I blame both parties for this as well as the failure we call the Department of Education.

    But I also blame black culture. Sure, it's the basic duty of the nation to provide every American with the same basic chance to be their best, but the nation can't guarantee that everybody can actually achieve it. Nobody can make such a guarantee so griping about it is useless. If black Americans want to see more of "their people" (a divisive term that has no place in the US) in elite schools, it's time to hit the books more and protest less. That's the reality of it.

    When I went to Marin County high school we had a controversy brew up among the Hispanic students who didn't think the Spanish teacher was qualified because she was from the Philippines. It didn't matter that she spoke 4 languages including perfect Castillion, she was not Hispanic, so they and their parents protested. That was back in the 70s. Last year in Fresno a similar gripe session came about because black "leaders" objected to a cultural studies teacher who was white http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/29/black-leaders-in-fresno-oppose-white-cultural-studies-teacher/ . It didn't matter how qualified the teacher actually was, only the color. That's the kind of shit that has to change as well. It can't ALL be dumped at the feet of white Americans, that would be racist!
     
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    I have a number of relatives who have attended top Ivy League schools and have gone onto have great careers in Finance, Medicine, and Law, I guess they’ll just have to disavow their education, knowledge, and experience, because some bigot says so [​IMG]

    On a side note: Maureen Scalia, the wife of Justice Antonin Scalia, sits on the board of the conservative Nurturing Network, which works to dissuade women from having abortions. – interesting.



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  9. stormountainman

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    Hey Brother RJ, did you know that Republican Governor of Texas Rick Perry had a favorite horse named ******, and that the Perry Ranch is known as The ****** Ranch? Rick and Tony seem to have similar views about Black Folks.
     
  10. soulcompromise

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    Interesting. I found that I sort of understood how Scalia arrives at his conclusion, but at the same time I have a degree. Of course I wasn't black and couldn't claim to have experienced anything like what black people must go through to get an education.
     
  11. GeorgeJetStoned

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    There was a dog with that name in the movie "The Dambusters". It was a WW2 flick about bombing a damn and wiping out towns full of Germans. The dog was killed by a car which the movie portrays as you'd expect for such an old flick.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dam_Busters_(film)
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046889/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_(dog)
    http://s695.photobucket.com/user/volvosmoker/media/Dambusters2.jpg.html

    Oh good lord, a trailer. They SAY it!!! As they're giving the dog beer. Geezzzzz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKQHVdgCeXo


    Personally, it's not a word I grew up hearing or saying. Living in Atlanta the few times I hear it usually comes from someone who is black and is addressing someone else who is black. Since I'm a Saltine-American I can usually feel some tension until people hear my totally non-southern voice. While I think it's a vile word we should all just forget, I wonder where Scalia holds an opinion on it. I'm sure he has been called all manner of things because of his ethnicity (and age).

    In the US I think that race has had a rebirth. The term Racism is slathered onto an issue so easily now than I remember it in the 70s. But I was into pot and Disco back then. In San Rafael that meant you hung out with a diverse bunch already. I miss those days. And driving into San FranCrisco!
     
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  12. SpacemanSpiff

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    thats weird the link in op now says he didnt say it

    it says it was reported wrong lmao
     
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    It was reported wrong!!! The article now explains it!! Too many assumptions, no apologies?
     
  14. hotwater

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    Essentially what he said was a field hand shouldn’t try to be a house ******




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    Here is what he said:

    http://youtu.be/SjaY-hZsgBQ​
     
  17. Piney

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    The Justice has passed on to the afterlife now.

    His eulogy will encompass these issues.

    Thankfully he spoke up. History will be the judge.

    He was not bullied by political correctness.
     
  18. hotwater

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    Yes, his soul has passed into the afterlife guided by the Roman poet Virgil


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    He was an asswipe of a human who brot his religious prejudices to the bench in a secular society. He was one of five conservatives but he let out his vitriolic hatred for minorities be known by writing his honest bigoted opinions, especially when the majority went with a civil right decision that he voted against. So, I say Good Riddance to a despicable person.

    He along with the four other conservatives voted to dismantle many protections for black civil rights, saying the racist days in the South were over, when we see the disfranchisement that he unleashed in many Southern states.

    He and his equally bigoted friend Clarence (Uncle) Thomas were against gay marriage because it went against their religious beliefs. Never mind that the same Constitutional precedent was used in 1967 to overturn all miscegenation laws. Just myopic mean-spiritedness. Luckily one of the less dogmatic conservative justices swayed the court to grant that civil right to this minority.
     
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  20. MeAgain

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    Now they Republicans will block any nomination Obama makes hoping they get the White House so they can appoint another super Conservative judge.
     
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