Religion.

I considered myself atheist.

I consider myself now to be agnostic.

I still need science to prove what is real and what is not. The great thing about science is if you want, you can become educated enough to do the studies yourself to reach the same conclusion.

 

Im pretty much an athiest, I dunno Im a skeptic and need proof for me to beleive things. Also I like things to make sense and not believing in a god makes the most sense to me.

 

atheist. Grandma is Catholc though.

 

I definitely consider myself to be agnostic. I was atheist at one point, but the more i thought about logical positivism, the more i realized that im uncertain that there isnt a god. so id rather just be in the middle for now.

 

I'm an athiest.

I have many reasons for this choice, and because I feel I have no reason to believe there is a God(s).

 

Hedging your bets?

 

At this point every possibility stems from the same place- the world. This means I cannot differentiate anything at this point, no matter how it was known.

 

I am a Christian that doesn't know what to believe in except God and Jesus Christ. All this homosexuality, abortion, and other shit religion says not to do is something i cant judge for myself, and will leave it up to God.

I believe God is happy with any human that attempts to love one another at all times. Love is key in this world.

I believe its foolish for anyone to be a complete atheist and totally deny the possibility of there being a higher power/God. Simply because of this world were living in. All i know is that i'm this amazingly functional human being given this beautiful world to live in, so why NOT believe in God? Isn't it a bit irrational to believe all of this/us is just 1 huge mistake?

Just my opinion..

 

Just remember swazo, all science branches out of human consciousness, and is therefor technically no different than a blind belief in God, it's purely subjective. What science does is more or less give names to what is going on, even the 'how' is left completley open to many possibilities

 

Exactly.

So why believe in a God like you do? Any theory we come up with can have no solid evidence.

Yes there may be a God.. but we have no way of knowing. Same goes for theories of science. So the only logical conclusion is that we cannot know anything for sure.. and should reside in a state of non-belief on every matter.

 

Because I've met God :tongue:
Seriously though, I've experienced occurences that are so profound that I have been left with no doubt. Take into consideration that I was an unshakeable atheist up until around 19, Im 22 now. It takes experience, and accordingly, not everyone is ready to emrace it.
But there is an objective God Realization, and it only comes from transcending consciousness. If you do the proper work through negation of your self, you would find it too. There is a certain look in the eyes of self-masters that shows you, there is no doubt, they know God objectivley.
Im not saying that to know God is to know everything, quite the opposite as you would find that you know nothing. But knowing God is not the same thing as knowing the construction of subatomic particles, nor is it how or why the Big Bang occured. It's more of a feeling, and when the situations in your life overwhelming point to "wow...." it becomes quite clear how delusional physical reality and mental speculation really are.

 

i cant say as i have a religion,,, faith yes.... i dont believe any one theory , i take the bits and pieces of many n turn it into my personal faith ,,,,..... ....labels..labels...labels

 

Thats interesting.

Although the God you describe doesn't sound like the conventional definition of 'god'. I think i'll have to agree with you that with alot of introspection.. and transendance of conciousness may well take you too places that are beyond normal comprehension.. but i don't think that anything like the image created by christians, muslims etc of what a God is can relate to what you experienced. Your sense of 'God' seems to be the knowledge of something beyond physical reality... something that is incomprehensible, but has no impact on how we should live our lives.. (worship etc). Do you feel like your meeting with God has anything to do with how you should live life? or what you should work towards? Or do you simply feel as though you know something is out there, but it doesn't/can't relate to physical life as we see it.

 

Well, here's the thing, THE God can not, in any way, be comprehended. We think in term's of physical nature because that's all we perceive. But God can be felt in the manner of Nature Herself, the aspect of God that flows behind every subatomic particle, like a string behind the beads of a necklace. This is what can be touched via transcending consicousness, during yoga, meditation, etc.
But THE God, it's just that when you objectively go beyond the limits of the self's comprehension, you KNOW that it's there. It's not a He or a She obviously, and the closest description we can give it is more or less a vibrationless spirit out of which all vibrational existance comes out of and goes back into. But other than that, it's impossible to explain, as well as to share, because it's your personal self-negation that is the vehicle to your Source. This is why I said I am close with Hinduism, because what is seen from outsiders as worship of many god's, is in acutality a limited human description of how God is present in many different forms, for example Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, or Beginning, Sustaining, and Destruction (of the universes).
The way it affects people personally is that there is an aspect of God that is manifesting your own consciousness, this is why people practice yoga, to raise the energy back up from the lowest charka (energy focal point along the spine) to the chakra in the mind's eye, to 'awaken' in the Mind of God, rather than to continue being 'dreamed' by God. It's hard to explain really :tongue: It's a personal battle with soul vs. ego that everyone of us goes through on a daily basis, but most dont even know. But if you believe in karma, then it is for all of us to finally go home when we are clear of karma. For those who dont know, karma is more than just retribution or repremandation, karma is a blueprint that is closer to you than your DNA upon birth which decides what your DNA is, as well as every aspect of your phsyical life. Certain layers of the veils of cosmic delusion are removed according to your progress in negating your karma. Those who are absorbed in their personal life and their needs and wants, are blind to the subtle inner working's of the light of creation. But if you try, you will see it. Like in the song Kashmir :
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed
Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate, the story was quite clear
namaste family -

 

The reason monkies\apes are still around, is that we branched off and went into a new, separate environment from the apes. My opinion on how the god idea came into existence? Its probably a power-mechanism to keep control over the people when it cannot be enforced by anything real. Whats better than to say if you act good in this life, once your dead you will spend eternity in bliss, and in terror if you act badly? IMO, the whole thing was probably dreamt up by one of the first civilizations and was such an effective mechanism that it hasn't stopped rolling since then. The only reason we are questioning this now is because our fundamental scientific knowledge of how things are really happening is allowing for other explanations.

How did the big bang happen? Once again this is pure speculation, but the most possible explanation according to quantum physics is that before the big bang, there was nothing at all. Im sure at least a few of you are familiar with the "Quantum vacuum" (tiny particles popping in and out of existence in a seemingly empty space). Every once in a long while (there are no time limits on this, we have an eternity of nothing happening) there is a difference in the particle, it doesn't get cancelled out instantly. And suddenly we have a particle out of nowhere. My idea is that this happened, and the particle somehow caused the big bang. Remember, anything is possible here. Nobody is around to count the failed tries.

Life? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life

Why are all the planets not the same? During the formation of our solar system, there was a big gas\dust\rock cloud around the sun, and the distance from the sun affected which elements where in any location of the dust cloud thanks to gravity pulling heavier elements more, and also because of randomness.

Now only if that counted for something in school

 

With the quantum vacuum, remember the theory of baby universes as actually popping into and out of existance? We are just in one universe among many, Im sure At least it seems like that to me!

 

How do we know that we're not the collective hallucination of a God who has dropped some some damned good acid?

 

In all honesty, that's not that far from my belief :tongue:
Except I dont think God is tripping, I think God is dreaming us

 

Im the only jew??? Shit. Well im not really jewish, im not practicing, but my whole family is jewish and i had a bar mitzvah.

 

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