Religion is a form of psychosis

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by dd3stp233, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    Who am I pre-judging? The Catholic church has always been corrupt and continues to be, I am not saying that every Catholic or christian is. I could say that most people are prejudice against Nazism, because they fail to see the positive points of it and their contributions to the world and only see the negative ones. Acton's famous quote, "All power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely." was specifically addressed to a Catholic Bishop (Mandell Creighton, 1887). I think his statement is true whether it's a government, a religion, the New Orleans police department, the mafia or any hierarchical system.

    If the bible has so many possible interpretations then it doesn't have any inherent meaning, then what's the point of it? Some christians I have talked to, have vehemently stressed that it does mean exactly what it says.
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Of course they do. Christian evangelicals believe that fervently,but I think they're wrong. In fact, I think their position is absurd and untenable. And even they disagree on matters of interpretation and emphasis.There are many interpretations of Shakespear's plays, the Greek tragedies, Joyce's Ulysses,etc. Does that mean they have no point? They have no single, unequivocal, point, I agree, but they're valuable sources of insight, nonetheless.
     
  3. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Religion is what you use to define meaning and purpose.

    Be it catholicism, judaism, islam, protestantism, zoroastranism, scientology and so much more.

    ALL is about why we are here.

    And WHY are we here?

    No-one knows. Especially religion.
    A drunk in a dumpster knows more about the meaning of life than the pope.. go figure.

    Occam
     
  4. CharleySpider

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    "There is no differnce between a psychotic state defined by delusions, and distorted perceptions of reality and most religions."

    What are you all some form of fucktards. Did it ever occur to you that youre all just whiney little shits with nothing better to do at your young age than rebel. Course not... youre all fucktards.

    Never trust anyone under 30... they are fucktards!

    On the other hand a science has proved Liberals are mentally ill. You really want to go any farther with this you young fucktards! I thought not.

    What a bunch of fucktards.
     
  5. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    Can't really be too hard on religion myself. There's plenty of non-religious persistent delusions that we're all perfectly happy to go along with - language, justice, morality, finance, etc. The fact that they don't invoke a specific supernatural entity doesn't mean that they explain themselves entirely or don't require a huge amount of mass faith on our part to exist.
     
  6. pizzicatofive

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    I think ORGANIZED religion HAS THE TENDENCY to be fubar like you guys are saying. Apart from all the religious bullshit, a truly spiritual person, who is in touch with himself, the universe, and his conception (or not) of god, no matter what religion he or she is from, is not suffering from any delusion or brainwashing. The problem, is that most people are religious in one way or the other (whether they believe in god or not) but they never really take the time to think intelligently about themselves or the world or whatever it is they need to be thinking about (time to drop some lsd!)

    A christian, a taoist, a scientologist, an atheist and an agnostic all have different opinions about metaphysics and the like, but who is to say one is more correct than the other?

    To me, agnosticism or soft atheism or even taoism are much more logical than most of the other options, but that doesn't make me or anyone else any more right.
     
  7. dd3stp233

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    What does a persons age, rebelion and liberals have to do with the o.p. topic? Imho nothing.
     
  8. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    fucktards. lol. wtf?
     
  9. LanSLIde

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    Psychosis, being a mental, rather than physical state, is as provable as God (and is also a creation of human thought). Either way, the idea of one constant reality is questionable, the world is what you make of it.

    Religion does not make people bad; bad people do bad things and use religion to shield themselves. Good people will do good regardless of their faith, or lack thereof.
    I'm sure you would like to provide a link to the study where you got this information from.

    I got what you were trying to convey, of course (maybe); the teen brain is remarkably different than an adult one in terms of chemicals and their balances, not to mention (possibly as a result) the average teen's mental state. Every (healthy) young mind should eventually hit upon that rebellious stage, where questions of authority, religion, and social identity collide. Just reflect on the fact that you, too, were once a bright young fucktard, and now it's their turn to follow in your footsteps. You aren't helping them outgrow their fucktard stage by making an ass of yourself, though, so please try to at least be the bigger man and address what you feel to be their ignorant bashing in a mature fashion.

    Agree, and I'm glad someone's done enough theological tinkering to have Taoism on a mentioning level
    Like a poem, or an inkblot, people will interpret the text in a manner that corresponds with their expectations and personality, which is great for religious extremists. I agree, though; I cannot imagine reading the bible several times through and coming up with the church that Christianity has become.

    I think the problem really comes about when people ask hard questions looking for life-guidance, and expect hard answers from their holy book. I mean, obviously the bible doesn't have any passages regarding something like abortion directly (at least with modern issues attached), and even if it did, it wouldn't be in the form of a statement, it would be in the form of a story/parable. So people look for hard answers from other people, or ask others to interpret the passages for them. At the very least, the bible makes for an interesting perspective on life from the time is was composed, just don't expect any miracle answers (ohhh miracle, pun in yo face).
    First off, I agree, I just like to throw out some ideas. If your thoughts and actions are the result of your past thoughts and actions coupled with interactions with the world (which is not under your control), just what free will do you have that isn't illusion? Your reaction upon reading this is not a choice; you could claim to be choosing between possible reactions that you have thought up, but the resulting decision is already cemented.

    That was probably not at all what you meant; you meant like the idea of being created to serve God's will or go to hell? I was addressing free will, my bad.
     

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