Regarding North Korea

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pressed_Rat, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. dd3stp233

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    More than 13 million North Koreans suffer from malnutrition, including 60 percent of all children -- the worst rate among 110 developing nations surveyed by the World Health Organization and UNICEF.

    Forced sterilizations in the U.S. have occurred as late as 1979. Some 65-75,000 people total have been forcfully sterilized in the U.S. between 1907-1979.
     
  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Well this, from a pro-conspiracy theory website

    “It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:
    "The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".
    It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.
    To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written”
    http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

    OK so we have one lie being told (that this was in the British Museum) and no proof that Pike ever wrote it.

    We do have two writers that very much had it in for freemasons. Now although Carr says that Rodriguez mentions the letter in 1925, the first time Carr cites it is in the 1950’s.

    Carr was a rampant anti-communist, believer in conspiracy theories and the ‘evil satanic forces’ behind them, views very, very similar to Rats own.

    Well it is strange that all the problems with the text all kind of sort themselves out if you take the time of the letter as the 1950’s rather than as the 1870’s.

    So Rat can you prove that this letter was written by Pike, and can you prove it wasn’t written latter than is claimed?

    If it swims like a fish and smells like a fish, it is probably a fish.
     
  3. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    The worse thing about the neo-con foreign policy is the completely wrong lessons it gives out.

    North Korea has nuclear weapons and a diplomatic solution is sort

    Iraq hasn’t nuclear weapons and is invaded

    Is it any wonder that Iran would want a bomb?
     
  4. NoVictimNoCrime

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    got the response from the british museum's manuscripts inquiries branch. here's the email.



    Dear Mr. ---,



    Re: ALBERT PIKE to GIUSEPPE MAZZINI



    The letter supposedly written from Albert Pike to Giuseppe Mazzini in 1871 does not exist.



    Please see below an extract from The Cause of World Unrest (1920), a slim volume explaining the role of world freemasonry, the Jesuits, and the Elders of Zion in jointly bringing about the Bolshevik revolution, is almost certainly the origin of this misapprehension. Although the author believes in the conspiracy, he doesn’t actually believe in the letter, and makes it clear that there is no independent witness to its existence.



    In the year 1896 there appeared in Paris a curious publication called ‘Le Diable au XIXieme Siècle’. It was an attack upon Freemasonry, and came out in parts, illustrated with grotesque and revolting engravings. The name on the title-page is Dr Bataille, but it is stated in the British Museum Catalogue that the real authors were Gabriel Jogand-Pagès and Charles Hacks. The book, with evident knowledge and a show of authority, set out to trace the connection between Freemasonry and revolutions, but its sensationalism and the extremely doubtful character of some of the documents produced brought it into disrepute. It is now forgotten, and yet it contains a good deal that can be verified from other sources, and some things which seem to be verified by recent events. In particular there is a letter-or an alleged letter-said to have been written by Alfred Pike, the “Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry” assisted by the Ten Ancients of the Grand Lodge of the Supreme Orient at Charleston, to “the very illustrious brother” Giuseppe Mazzini. This letter is dated (in Masonic style) August 15th, 1871, and sets forth an anti clerical policy which Mazzini is to follow in Italy. What is to our purpose occurs towards the end of the letter. The writer explains that owing to the working out of this policy the Pope may be driven at some future time out of Italy, and that established religion will then find it’s last refuge in Russia. And the letter proceeds:

    “That is why, when the autocratic Empire of Russia will have become the citadel of Papal Christianity (adonaisme papiste), we shall unchain the revolutionary Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm, which will demonstrate clearly to the nations, in all its horror, the effect of absolute unbelief, mother of savagery and of the most bloody disorder. Then, everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the mad minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate these destroyers of civillisation, and the multitude, disillusioned of Christianity, whose deist soul will up to that moment be without compass, thirsting for an ideal, but not knowing where to bestow their worship, will receive the True Light, by the universal manifestation of the pure Lucifarian doctrine, at last made public, a manifestation which will arise from the general movement of reaction following the destruction of Atheism and Christianity, both at the same time vanquished and exterminated.”

    Now this letter is at least as old as 1896 (if it a forgery); if it is genuine, it is as old as 1871. It must therefore be considered remarkable, whether as a forgery or as a genuine document. For it predicts what has happened in Russia, and it claims for its authors that they were preparing to bring about what has happened.

    If we compare more closely the words of the Masonic letter with what has actually happened in Russia, we cannot but see how close is the correspondence between the threats and the reality:



    THE MASONIC LETTER

    …we shall unchain the revolutionary Nihilists and atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm…horror…savagery…the most bloody disorder.



    MR CHURCHILL’S DESCRIPTION

    …in the same way that you might send a phial…to tear to pieces every institution…long internal terrors…menaced by famine…sufferings more fearful than modern records hold.



    Whatever explanation we may incline to give, we must at least allow that it is a document which is very difficult to explain. And there is this much to be said in support of it- that Mazzini certainly was connected with the birth of “Revolutionary Nihilism” called the International.





    Regards,

    MSS Enquiries
     
  5. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Rat: I'd love to see the prick wacked, and the smirk wiped off his face.

    But I'd be afraid the prick would unleash his war machine on The South, so I'm not advocating action now. We can wait.

    If any place on Earth qualifies for "regime change" its The North.

    Would love to see the two Korea's united like the two Germanies were. These poor people deserve a break. Conditions in The North are terrible.

    The U.N. has done squat about Kim. China is only too happy to have him as a destablizer.
     
  6. ~MorningManiacMusic~

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    My friends,friend is in the Navy and he said their warship shot down one of those North Korean missles ,that was headed towards the U.S.I think it was the one that the news said didn't launch properly or something.But this dude said thats bullshit,we shot it down.
     
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