Referances to Weed in the Bible?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by LuMpYtRiChOmEy, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    I am glad someone finally understands the difference in fermentation between biblical times and now.
     
  2. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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  3. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Kris, interesting info, but it doesn't make sense that a non-alcoholic drink would have laws and regulation written about it in the Bible itself. Whats the harm in drinking a lot of grape juice? Unless it was alcoholic, of course. And though wine may not have been a common drink, surely for a wedding, when people go all out, it would have been served. What is more normal than drinking at a wedding feast, a joyous event worthy of celebration? This makes sense in light of the miracle Jesus performed at the wedding. In fact, one of the waiter even confirms it's alcoholic by saying how most bring out the good wine first, and after the guests have drunk freely, bring out the lesser wine. That would make no sense unless the wine is alcoholic, as the good wine would numb the guests' senses and they wouldn't notice the badness of the later wine. What about Noah planting a vinyard, making wine, getting drunk on it, and then being seen in a shameful state. Grape juice at work again?

    I did a google search too and found lots of sites that contradict yours. I guess it's up to the individual what they believe, but it seems obvious to me.

    (by the way, just because the alcohol level is as low as 5% doesn't mean you can't get drunk on it. Most beer today is around that level).
     
  4. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    Lol you answered your own question with the last statement. Yeah there are alot of diffrent things out there about Biblical Wine. The bible does say wine is good for you, as I said before chocolet is also good for you....In small ammounts.
     
  5. Professor Jumbo

    Professor Jumbo Mr. Smarty Pants

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    Hey Kris, yes getting info from the internet is a good thing, but you must make sure that you get the correct info. Getting historical info on alcholic beverages from an anti-alchol Christian site is like getting info on NASA from a "moon landing was faked" website.

    Anyhow, wine back then had significantly more alcohol than it does today, not less. This is one of the reasons why it usually was mixed with water though there are several. Here's how it goes. Water back then, especially in the cities, was polluted with all sorts of nasty things. People threw their garbage in it, they pooped in it, threw dead bodies in it, etc. . . Drinking water from cities was likely to make you very sick or even kill you. Everybody drank wine in cities. People knew that if you mixed wine with water you could drink it and not get sick or die. If wine had not had a signifiant percentage of alcohol either it would not have been able to kill the bacteria, or there would not have been enough wine to go around. People then didn't know why this happened (alchol kills the bactreria), but they knew that it was the case.
    It is for this reason that the miracle of Christ turning the water into wine was so significant. At the wedding they ran out of wine but still have plenty of water for mixing. They knew that if they drank the water they would get sick or even die. If they did not drink the water they would get dehydrated and have equivalent problems.
     
  6. tuesdayafternoon

    tuesdayafternoon Member

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    I know it says somewhere in the bible that the weeds shant be tolerated, for they were put here by the evil one, I forget what passage though.
     
  7. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Yeah, you gotta read this whole thing, it's hilarious if you get it:
    Matthew 13: (courtesy of biblegateway.com)
    24Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

    27“The owner's servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

    28“ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

    “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ 29“ ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’ ”
     
  8. Ole_Goat

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    Does the Bible mention anything about Munchies after the burning of the weed?
     
  9. LuMpYtRiChOmEy

    LuMpYtRiChOmEy Member

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    -Didnt they always have a goat or something roastin somewheres?
     
  10. LuMpYtRiChOmEy

    LuMpYtRiChOmEy Member

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    I think somma the books that were taken out of the Bible were recipee books. -I dont think they woulda told ya to burn stuff at the altar and make a pleasin smell to the Lord without tellin ya how to make the pleasin smell! -I think some were books on how to mix alla that stuff they stuk in their stenchers :) ! -Jesus didnt find it dangerous, -the church did. -I mean the fake church.
     
  11. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Duhh, that's why he said put all the grain in my barn. Munchies dude..
     
  12. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    haha! an actual full story about it

    if some didnt pick it up, cannabis is often used as a plant that takes over from surrounding plants, and is often used between seasons (traditionally) to keep soil well, while keeping it free from pests and real weeds. so the context fits as well!

    i think it can grow at the same time as some crops too in a regulating fashion. i dunno how that works tho
     
  13. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Weed in the cornfield. :p
     
  14. prattjk

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    The word Kene bosm is in the bible wich means HEMP- AROMATIC
     
  15. prattjk

    prattjk Member

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    There was a mis translation in the old greek bible which was found by a man in the , the word kene bosmOf the historical material indicating the Hebraic use of cannabis, the strongest and most profound piece of evidence was established in 1936 by Sula Benet (a.k.a. Sara Benetowa), a Polish etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences in Warsaw. Benet later stated that: "In the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament there are references to hemp, both as incense, which was an integral part of religious celebration, and as an intoxicant"(Benet 1975). Through comparative etymological study, Bennett documented that in the Old Testament and in its Aramaic translation, the Targum Onculos, hemp is referred to as kaneh bosm, which is also rendered in traditional Hebrew as kannabos or kannabus. The root "kan" in this construction means "reed" or "hemp", while "bosm" means "aromatic". This word appeared in Exodus 30:23, Song of Songs 4:14., Isaiah 43:24, Jeremiah 6:20, Ezekiel 27:19.



    In 1980 the Hebrew University in Israel confirmed Benet's identification of Kaneh-Bosm as hemp, and the respected anthropologist Weston La Barre(1980) referred to the Biblical references in an essay on cannabis. In that same year respected British Journal New Scientist also ran a story that referred to the Hebrew Old Testament references, (Malyon & Henman 1980). A modern counterpart of the word is even listed in Ben Yehudas Pocket Dictionary and other Hebrew source books. Further, on line, the Internet's informative Navigating the Bible, used by countless theological students, even refers to the Exodus 30:23 reference as possibly designating cannabis. In 1995, with the publication of Green Gold, the biblical references to cannabis were given their most thorough examination up to that time, but unfortunately this information is still not widely known by most modern day Jews, Christians or religious scholars. Further, the news of the cannabis references is not always excepted with open minds. One Rabbi sent the following emotional response to an article Chris Bennett wrote discussing the references to hemp in the Old Testament;

    "Incense (and smoke) are all important parts of what the Jewish people did in the Desert as part of serving G-d. In fact, I'll even agree that Cannabis was one of the constituent ingredients in the incense. But there is no proof whatsoever that people were getting high! Any objective Torah Scholar or Rabbi who was asked about the total number of times getting high is mentioned in the Bible, or in the Talmud or Midrash, would answer "none".
     
  16. prattjk

    prattjk Member

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    So I believe marijuana is a Herb from GOD!!!
     
  17. prattjk

    prattjk Member

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    this isn't true either Epiphany
     
  18. WanderingSoul

    WanderingSoul Free

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    I remember learning something about that kaneh bosm when I was being brainwashed as a kid in church, before I even knew what weed was. Wish I could remember what the preacher was exactly trying to say.
     
  19. prattjk

    prattjk Member

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    I wouldn't necessaraly call it brainwashing, The Christian faith is a good thing, look into it with a deeper spiritual meaning.
     
  20. WanderingSoul

    WanderingSoul Free

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    Lol, look into it? It was forced down my throat for years. You act like I don't know anything about it, geesh, I was there for most of my life.

    I don't think so.

    I believe in God, but not the bible. I mean, some of it is history but the words "prescribed by god" were just some dudes opinions.

    To each their own.
     

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