Reasons to hate John Howard

hey sooty the pro-war people are worse coz its like watching the girl next door getting molested and joining in.

 

hahaha nice one bernie.

 

it's not that black and white. turning our backs on the US would be a huge mistake in more ways than one.

the people who are trying to stop others from being killed in war... as opposed to let them continue being killed by their own people? who oppress them torture them kill their familes and make them suffer? anyone who thinks the better choice there is to let that continue especially when we have the power to help them... well they are only lieing to themselves that they are doing the right thing. and honestly it makes me sick.

 

HAHAHA, god thats great.

 

I didnt say private schools should get more money. Sorry but the state government does NOT provide 90% of private school funding, that is just a major crock of shit. I have seen the government issued statements on the funding to schools in australia, public schools get about 80% private schools get as little as 7%.

Not everyone who goes to private school is rich. Lots of parents make sacrifices of their own just so they can afford to send their kids to private schools and by making it more and more expensive those kinds of people wont even be able to have that choice. so fuck you if you think it's only rich families and that they can afford to pay ridiculously high fees ONTOP of goverment fees which is paying for public schools that they arent even using.

i think you both missed my original point, i said i was opposed to the fact that labour wants to abolish private schools completely, make them so expensive that normal people wont even have the choice to send their kids there. Bernie it sounds like you've never even been in a private school. New computers every month? projectors in every class room? w t f. i went to a private school and we didnt get it that good. the thing that is better about private schools is the learning environment.

 

hey wow that was a nice try at being witty or whatever but it's not really a good look for you as you just come off a dumb ass who really has no idea what he's talking about.

hey i hope the next time your daddy makes you go down on him and your neighbour sees he does nothing to help you

thanks come again.

 

hey quit laying into me... and ive gone to a private school for the last 5 years and just changed to a catholic school this year. yes we did get new computers every few months, with digital cameras, 40 french horns, 55 saxophones, 60 flutes and 50 clarinets or something like that number, and brand new laptops for every staff member with a bank of projectors to take to classrooms... yeah they do have all that shit AND the learning environment at my school now is way better than my last school, which cost over six times as much to go to. teachers dont rip you off and they treat you like adults rather than unapreciative misfits.

and really what the fuck is your problem i said like two things and your condeming me to be molested? the iraqis are the ones being molested, first by sadam and now by bush, and you started the whole witty thing so dont geesh im too tired to talk

 

sorry i meant 7 years but yeah you get the point... what makes you so sacred that you and the US government can judge the entire world. iraq is in no better circumstance than it was 2 years ago before the war started... and you cant argue that the US invaded iraq for the benefit of iraqis because it has just benefited the US economy so much seeing as they have obtained "free" leases on businesses for the next 40 years even if theyve withdrawn all troops from iraq.

 

if you make stupid comments then you'll get shit for it.

oh you went to ONE private school, so you must be the expert on private schools now. hahahaha. goddamn. me witty?... uhm i was just staing the facts.

 

oh puh lease, not this again. the US gets so much bashing. but it's like, when they do help out they get abused for it, and when they dont they get abused for it, so what exactly do you think they should do? fucking hypocrites.

 

sorry i never said i was an expert on private schools... i never said i was an expert on anything and i dont profess to be but you just cant accept that other people have opinions... you think you are the ultimate source of knowledge in the whole world AND IT MAKES ME SICK. it doesnt really you just get so worked up over stuff. the people of iraq are in a bad situation, they used to be and still are but there are many countries in the world living under similar regimes does the US think the appropriate solution is to take over everyone of these countries so it can be run like America... which by the way is yeah an EXTREMELY socially equal country... people care for each over there... thats why they keep shooting each other. not saying anything against americans its just that attitude of violence that you can see in the attitude "i can see an old man molesting a young child lets go shoot their fucking heads off then i wont have to watch this shit"

 

well i think they should stop killing people... thats about it. if they can help people without killing them then im all for that!!! but hey bombing civilians is just great help... if i was being molested i'd just love to be bombed.

 

hahah actually im quite calm, im not that sad as to get upset about the views of some 16 year old kid in newcastle... im laughing i think its funny you tell me i think i know everything then you go on to claim you do... haha riiighttt. you can have your opinion. it means shit to me. i was simply replying to you because you directed a post at something i said... mkay.

you really don't see the bigger picture. i know it's easy to just put everything into a nice little box and pick and choose what you think is more important than something else so as to validate everything you believe. but it wouldnt hurt you to be less narrow minded. i bet they feed you all this anti-war anti-america shit at your school. now that is an issue that does get me worked up. brainwashing. its everywhere. course you're gonna say that you're not brainwashed. but you wont realise it till you look back in some time, maybe you'll never realise it. there are a lot of stupid adults around blindly following what they've been told.

 

id like to see you try and help out in a situation like that without having casualities.... americans are getting killed as well you know... thats partly why there are many americans against the whole thing... duh.

 

im not brainwashed!!! im really not... i really am open minded i just dont see why we have to kill people... i mean if no-one killed anyone then there would be no need to kill people in order to stop people killing people. i think your views are just as naive and narrow minded as mine... i suppose your 3 years extra living gives you an excuse to know absolutely everything about the world?


i really dont understand how anyone could live with the view that the world is doomed to a vicious cycle of violence. i understand this shit goes on but theres always this naggling hope in the back of my head that says things idealisticly and realisticly can and will get better.

 

humans kill humans. deal with that. animals kill animals. there will never be peace, the hippy movement is flawed.

"i suppose your 3 years extra living gives you an excuse to know absolutely everything about the world?"

you said it not me. but you are probably right.

 

Looks like I dropped one hell of a bomb here


To begin my rebuttal Ishall address this point.

Fact: Private schools get more money per student than public schools.
Fact: Private schools set the annual school fees for students, not the goverment
Fact: Parents do not have to send their children to private schools, yet they do becuse the "teaching environment is better". Why? because private schools revceive a lot of funding from the government, when infact they should not be, and therefore can afford better facilities and smaller class sizes. The truth is, if public schools recieved adequate funding, they too would have a good teaching environment.

We may well be fucked, I agree. However France did not follow bush into the war. Is france fucked? no.

The problem is, Australia has never had support from England in times of trouble and america has saved our ass. This however, does not mean that we should bend over and let the american govt fuck australia in the arse every time they ask us to roll over. Just because we had little choice in entering the war due to our 'aleigence' to america, it doesnt mean that what we subsequently did was right. Just because we were in no position to refuse, doesnt ,mean that the war is just. Its not.

This is rude and disrespectful. Age does not automatically give one wisdom. Nor does being sixteen mean that you have no grasp on world issues.

And this implies you havent been brainwashed hmmm?

 

hahah amen to that retrogroove girl.

Sooty i cant respect you putting other people down like that, if you are accepting, youd accept that everyone has their own views, and not demeanor others by using pathetic insults,,

i agree again with retogroove age doesnt indicate wisdom, and from this thread that is trully indicitive.

 

sooty sucks. i don't know why someone like her hangs around here?? someone please tell me, why??

She never has anything decent to say about anyone or anything here at HP, to my knowledge anyway.

she has really proven herself here though this time.

 

But saying she sucks isn't any more acceptable than her suggesting that the rest of us are morons.

I'm sure we can all have a discussion without resorting to name calling and personal attacks.