I see you didn't understand my use of the word "just" in the context that I used it. I should have chosen my words more carefully. My use of the word just meant that 80,000 is only 12% of the Lancet number. I would guarantee that I have seen more attrocities of this war than you have seen on your computer screen. Mamed women and children with limbs blown off, crushed by debris, used as cover by insurgents, bullet ridden bodies, etc.. The horrible results of war are not something that I am trying to cover up or avoid. I have said before that this blood is on Bush's hands. 80,000 men women and children most of whom would be alive if it were not for the US invasion. I am not denying this. One does not need to exaggerate this number to make it any more reprehensible. Do you know who else counts their dead? The Iraqis!!! Some seem to think that the Iraqis are so incompetant that they can only account for 12% of their dead. Meaning that they have over 500,000 unidentified dead!! This is the Lancet Study. The same study that MIT showed was statistically impossible to conduct accurately and unbiased in the amount of time claimed by the study. According to this study, a team of Americans and Iraqis spent an average of only 4 minutes per household throughout the survery. Imagine a team of researchers going from house to house, knocking on strangers doors, introducing themselves, explaining the purpose of their survery, asking a number of questions to frightened and emotional Iraqis and recording the results.... All in only 4 minutes!!! I have broken this number down several times in the past and have raised points and questions that were ignored in favor of insults. I do not expect to get any more the 3rd or 4th time around.
no doubt the war mongers would have been claiming that germany wasn't killing anyone in ww2, it was all just some confusion with reality and statistics. from the posts of some characters that they know even less of american history than they do of current events. german mercenaries were used against the american populace this would be at least one example. maybe instead of learning about how jesus wants america to attack every other country on the face of the planet they could try and educate themselves.
Missing Bodies More Than 1000 Bodies from 911 Are Unaccounted for http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/bodies.html More than 1000 bodies from 911 are still unaccounted for. Yo' wacky, Are you suggesting that we Americans are incompetent and can't count? or, it just proves what a complete moron you really are, just like your daddy Bush. Hmm..:toetap:
This is insane that they're trying to do that; it'll just mean that Bush or any other government pigs can strip us of our constitutional rights for any given reason and put us all in concentration camps. It reminds me of the many "lockdowns" we had in my old group homes; if even one kid proved to be a threat (usually for something like asking too many questions) we'd all be put under lockdown, kept indoors, all our belongings and rights taken away. They used this as a technique so that peer pressure would keep us all from speaking out. Sounds like the government is gonna pull this shit too.
Some might say that it is unfair to cunts to use the name in regards to a republican. I belive that the number is closer to 100,000. We have had this discussion before. I told you how you could find a more accurate measure of civilian casualties through FOIA. Being a journalist, this should not be anything new to you. Are you suggesting that there are over 1,400,000 Iraqi civilians that are unaccounted for? And of course with your logic you don't think you should have to provide any proof of this claim. I believe that the reason you pulled this statement out of your ass is that you actually don't believe the latest exaggerated toll of over 1,500,000 civilians dead like you claim to. I think that as unintelligent as you sound here, you are smart enough to realize that it is nearly impossible that there would have had to been an average of almost 850 civilians killed EVERY SINGLE DAY since the invasion began 5 years ago. You are not fooling anyone. Like I stated before, I am not going to repost the information that I had before. I know that you would just ignore it anyways, and it really doesn't matter to someone like you. As long as any source makes claims that suits your agenda, you could really give a shit how accurate it is. Your arguments are weak and pathetic.
LOL, Try going back and looking at the topic of this thread numbnutz How many times did i have to ask it , before i got an answer? He "guy" made a statement which was false, so he rewrote history and tried it. Which i'm sure you still believe it. And since you're giving history lessons now, tell us how it turned out for these german mercenaries? HTH, we do you keep trying to derail this thread? with your personal attacks? plz try to stay on topic, it's not that hard, and if you cant there is always the ignore option, ok.
You must be the easiest person here to profile, and your posts speak volumes about your character. To the ultra-left wing nutjobs like yourself, moderates seem like neocons. You cannot even back up your own accusations. When you and Fedup had your little pissing match, he was absolutely correct when he said "to make a difference, you need to use your mind" (or something to that extent). You are clearly not capable of this. I would be willing to bet that your debates are limited to internet havens where your only solace is being the spokesperson for the ultraliberal. You are loudmouthed and foul, but I have yet to hear anything of any substance come from you. I don't think your credibility is much higher than your IQ.
So, wacky, From "macho" posturing and war mongering, now you have resorted to name-calling, bitching and whining. :jester: What happened? Have you run out of lies to spin and bend according to your Neo-Con agenda.? I think it's time to get your ass banned from this forum. :toetap:
So what you are saying is that I have now lowered myself to Higherthanhell's level? I am truly offended, I was simply pointing out the obvious. Answer this question for me. Do you think that the far left-wing and the moderates should have two different sets of rules here? I find it amusing that when some people cannot come up with an argument of their own, they feel the other party should be banned. It appears ignorance and weakness go hand in hand. Have you ever noticed that Higherthanhell always seems to be the insitgator in these arguments? I find interest in differences of opinion, it is an excellent way of learning, but some people consistently join a thread just to flame. If you don't agree with me, present some material and we can discuss and debate it. Who knows, we may both walk away smarter. If I post information, links, etc. that you do not agree with, counter it. Simply ignoring it and calling somebody a neocon warmonger does absolutely nothing for you. Aren't you better than that? Smarter?
Yet you fail to see that you have the same mentality. You approach a difference in opinion with insults and namecalling. I rarely see you involved in debates either. Again, when presented with a difference in opinion, most times you respond with insults. Given the history of your demeanor, I have a funny feeling that your posts in those neocon forums contained the same type of flaming that you exhibit here. The only difference is that there is most likely less of your "kind" in those forums in comparison to this forum. And surely there are no moderators with your beliefs. I would be very interested to see the kind of posts that got you banned. You should post some links.