Racist

Discussion in 'People' started by Mamluke, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children
    In 2015-16, 12,903 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were the subject of a substantiation. Nationally, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children were almost seven times more likely to be the subject of substantiated reports than non-Indigenous children (with rates of 43.6 per 1,000 children compared with 6.4 per 1,000 respectively) (AIHW, 2017a). For further statistical details of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in the child protection system see Child Protection and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Children.

    Child abuse and neglect statistics


    Not saying its because they are a different race, but not acting to protect indigenous children because they belong to a different race, or because they were here first, or its their culture

    Is total bullshit
     
  2. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    And your belief that a white family would make better parents over another Aboriginal family is racist -
    I see we’ve come full circle (oh well I guess the title of this thread is after all "racist") [​IMG]
     
  3. Eric!

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    Hey wait...Aboriginals were being hunted like wild game?
     
  4. tumbling.dice

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    I looked for some confirmation of that but didn't find any sources I considered reliable. It is likely I was thinking of the hunting of Bushman (known as the San I learned) in South Africa. The last permit to hunt San was issued in Namibia by the South African government in 1936.
     
  5. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    The Bushmen were in Sth Africa yes and once it was realised that there was gold there.. Well that did not end too well. That's a history basically kept out of the history books but more information is surfacing within the ressureging interest into south African civilisation. It was actually during this period that the modernised concentration camps were used by the British to keep these small tribes off the land so they could mine all the gold. 36,000 died.
     
  6. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    As a white person who feels that he owes nothing to other races since you personally were not alive during slavery. As a white person who makes silly claims about people who want to help others actuly being the racist. As a white person who does not want to help others.

    In genera a right wing person who thinks the problems of the world are because you are punished as a white person for the past. You have said all this.
     
  7. Irminsul

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    As for Australia, everything I learned while living probably did support enough reason to believe they probably were hunted. At one point it was estimated that only less than 50 Aboriginals existed and they were pushed into central Australia. I don't believe it though because it seems unlikely with the population today that they would have stemmed from only 50 people.

    Like the American Indians the Aboriginals were great at living off the land so many were used as guides to traverse the harsh landscape. Aboriginals were also used to hunt escaped convicts.

    The state of Victoria, was apparently, sold by the aboriginals to English settlers for peanuts and beer. I'm not sure if that's true or not but I often heard that.
     
  8. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Lol, I never said anything close to that. I am a person who wants to be left alone as much as is possible. And I don't self identify as a white person, just another human here.
     
  9. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Really never said it huh?
     
  10. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    I don't self identify as a white person, just a guy...nothing more or less. I was saying there are those that do identify by race...which is racist by definition in my book.
     
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  11. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Do you really not understand the bigger picture or are your attempts to focus on small parts a statement genuine?

    You did the same thing when I said "different kinds of people"

    It does not matter if you think you are white. The whole "done see color thing" is another raicst way to justify their way of life. This alone does not make you racist but I gurentee many will read that quote and think a racist person made it.

    Not admitting their is an issue is as big an issue as going to a KKK meeting. All feed into the same thing.

    For me it's not guilt it's knowing I am alive now and can change it.
     
  12. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Hmm I always thought that by ignoring one's race and putting us into the branch of just a human was more racist than acknowledging one's race as different, especially since a lot of people think we evolved from an animal, there is no problem in distinguishing the differences between species of animal, we know a tiger from a lion by distinct characteristic differences, we even differentiate monkeys and apes in which these people suggest we come from, so I'm not sure how it's racist to look at an African man and an Asian man and say, well they're different. Because they are different. To ignore it is more racist than accepting racial and cultural differences.

    IMO.
     
  13. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Bullshit. White slave owners certainly saw a difference between themselves and their slaves. They used that perceived difference to treat blacks very differently than they would whites...as you well know. Now you say you want to help others based on...their race. Not on if they deserve to be helped or not. Racism is evil.

    Do you not see the bigger picture? Have you considered that there is only one human race left? There used to be others you know. They are extinct now, all gone. We are all that's left. We either sink or swim together. Jesus, let race considerations die already. It has to start somewhere, you are just waiting for it to start someplace other than yourself. Be brave and don't give a damn if you're PC or not.

    In my opinion the greatest respect you can pay someone is to judge them by the content of their character, not the color of their skin...to borrow a quote.

    And there you go talking about my 'way of life' again. I get up, go to work and come home. In between I treat everyone as I would like to be treated. What do you do?
     
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  14. Nobody calls Neil Armstrong "the first white man on the moon". It took the combined efforts of thousands of people of every race to put him there. At some point we need to stop all this racial shit. It becomes needlessly exhausting.

    I think one big reason for the escalation of the racial shit is the way the language has been skewed to the point that if you use a term that was denounced the week before, it's used as 100% irrefutable PROOF that you're a "Racist". Or a "Sexist". Or a "Machinist" ffs. As usual I recall a better time. But today I am told that what I remember from living in the south during the late 60s and through most of the 70s simply could not have happened.

    Maybe it was my privileged middle class upbringing. But I wasn't alone. Our neighborhood was fully integrated and had been for years. It was previously military housing, but was bought out by some retired colonel. I never got to see any marches or fire hoses. Except on TV.

    To the initial point, I realize that people need symbols of achievement. Sometimes they get them before they have achieved a thing (the Nobel peace prize comes to mind). Other's are hailed because of their gender (chosen or not) or color. Some people win awards for simply showing up and participating, and I don't object to that.

    However, I don't think there should be awards for doing nothing. Or worse, for taking advantage of people.
     
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  15. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    I generally hate quoting Wikipedia, but anyone that really wants to learn about race instead of letting a person's skin color determine how you treat them can start here.

    Human skin color - Wikipedia
     
  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I thought tumbling.dice was just a little annoyed with you when he reacted to that (in i think the hatespeech thread?), because it may have felt you were trying to make him feel guilty about things like this:

    But this on itself doesn't has to be regarded as a dubious conviction of course. It certainly isn't by default. Having it doesn't exclude also having empathy and understanding for blacks or minorities in his or even other societies. I myself don't feel I own shit to others just because of my country's history. I have other thoughts and convictions that make me see the use in stuff like aiding in development of former colonies or investing extra in certain minorities etc. So it can get to certain people when others say, well then you must be one of those typical white guys

    Edit: if im completely out of the ballpark I apologize @tumbling.dice ;) I just got this impression
     
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  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Ah.. just noticed this:

    So maybe we're all more on the same page then we assume? :p
     
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  18. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    I think you have the right attitude as far as sticking together. It's odd we seem to be on the same page yet so far away.

    I do judge on the content of character. I also help those who are unfairly judged. You seem to think I like would not call the police on a black man who stole my car since it's "racism you know he comes from a hard life" sort of attitude. No, not the case.

    I wish we could all move past race but some of my fellow humans do not. Some of them do not admit the work that needs to done now. So for that reason I still have to see a racial motivation in many politcal and private decisions people make in America.
     
  19. tumbling.dice

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    Why can't I feel bad for people that have gotten a bad rap just for that reason alone? Why should I consider a person's race when I decide if they're worthy of my compassion? That is the point I am trying, and failing, to make.
     
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  20. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    That wiki page trips over itself when it suggests that people closer to the poles have lighter skin. :p
    I mean.. Peruvians and Aboriginals and Inuits just name 3 cultures that have nothing to do with one another, aren't exactly....... light skinned.....
     

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