Racist America !!!

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by Vladimir Illich, May 6, 2020.

  1. Gul Dukat

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    You are not neutral since you said you believe his story. That is your opinion. I think it is equally likely he lied because he got called out by the cops. Your attempt to paint yourself as a neutral and unbiased party is dishonest. I couldn't say if that dishonesty is directed at me or yourself and frankly it doesn't matter.

    You haven't actually discredited anything, although I have highlighted some of your attempts to do so. At this point you are just repeating yourself.
     
  2. soulcompromise

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    lol. that was a good one! :)
     
  3. Gul Dukat

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    Really tough to debate blatant hypocrisy. A wiser man than myself would call it a waste of time.
     
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    all in your mind, you made up a scenario. No racial slurs were made by this individual. My limited understand of the clan is that they travel ion packs, like the gullls,, not alone.... for protection. Maybe you have knowledge that I don’t have with regards to the clan?
    I simply believe what patrons said, what he said and what the cops concluded. I am sure he will go elsewhere to shop next time as well. Do I care? Nope!

    idont know what he identifies himself as. He could be a hispanic bear for all I know. If you know what a bear is? He could identify himself as many things. I am not assuming he is white, Hispanic, nor am I assuming his religion. He could be anything. He could be a chair for all I know. He might be gay, he might be straight, who knows? What I do know is he was trying to make a political statement, according to him. When confronted he said his reasons. If he was taken to court, would there be reasonable doubt? Or is it just because you see him as white he is guilty? Seems you would be a bad person to have on a jury and biased just based on appearances. But apparently we must get to the bottom of this! Lol

    goes back to washing windows
     
  5. Gul Dukat

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    i didn't make up the fact he wore a klan mask. You really don't need to drop n bombs with that on for people to pick up on a bit of racism.
    And that's the crux of your lack of neutrality - the willingness to dismiss the obvious in favor of... Wait for it...
    Your own political narrative.
    Nope. Its the being white with a Klan mask that tipped me off.
    Of course there would be reasonable doubt. I never said otherwise. This isn't a court room and I have laid out the rationale for my opinion. The fact you have a differing opinion is also stated. I'm not even sure what your point is any more.
    Yes. Jurors should never call a white guy white.
     
  6. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    So is your gripe here that he or she was not arrested for wearing a clan hood? Are you upset that I find it Plausible that he/she was making a statement regarding masks being enforced? That I think it would have been pointless to arrest him or her? That I think Californians do many stupid things Under the guise of social justice? That I believe he/she may identify as a person of colour? The papers didn’t call him white either? Did they? That is a rather tell tail sign as well that he may not have been. If they could have, they would have, like in the OP.

    No you didn’t make up the fact that he wore a hood. You did draw your own conclusions simply based on appearances, and you completely disregarded statements made to police by patrons and the one in the hood.

    The fact is that in the OP the individuals were white and they killed a black man was the scenario. Hunted him down, we’re racist. The African American was just jogging down the street, at a walking pace, going into a house under construction then running away. Not that he deserved what happened, he didn’t in my opinion, but there is more to stories presented in papers.

    The hooded guy or girl, he might identify as a woman as well, although it is unlikely, but his legs do not look hairy, I am thinking he might shave them. I just don’t know. But it also could be a sign of an indigenous background and the lack of hair on the legs and arms.
     
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  7. Gul Dukat

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    Just as you decided to believe them. I mean what do the patrons know of the mans motivations beyond what he tells them? Nothing. All we know for certain is what physically took place.

    The rest of your post is all over the place. I never indicated I was upset with you or anyone else and have made my position pretty clear. If you have new information to share I'm all ears.
     
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  9. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    so you have no problem with what I said then? Why bother responding to me at all in such a negative manner? The patrons know that he never made any racial slurs. The patrons know he was not hostile. I chose to believe his statements and what was concludeD by all concerned,. I choose to believe that a large majority of Americans are no5 racist.
    You on the other hand have been very negative.
    I believe quotes that are accurate rather than scenarios presented by the media and headlines that are sensationalized.
    How does believing quotes Make not nuetral?? If I didn’t believe it, would that make me neutral? Are you neutral? Or are you biased? I did say I don’t care, but I am not assuming racism here either.

    you know Georgia had a law that prohibited face covering in 1951. So that the klans men could not hide their identity. During this outbreak that law has been set aside, April 15th 202 that happened in Georgia. So papers used it to say clansmen can wear their hoods in public now.

    My point is that, and I have said over and over. I don’t assume people are racist. I don’t assume ones ethnicity either. I don’t assume this guy was and I believe he was making a stupid statement. I believe when patrons say that he didn’t make any racial slurs and I believe that he did a stupid thing for publicity and to make a statement as well. I believe his startement saying it was stupid. It is all I have to go on. What his point was I don’t know for certain, true, but I don’t believe this was racially motivated either. I don’t assume he is lying. When or if I am given evidence to prove it was otherwise, then and only then willi change my mind. I don’t assume people are lying either. I do believe newspapers lie and slant things for political purposes and inflate stories,

    I believe you Very well could be wrong on your assumptions of ethnicity and his affiliations with the klan. You just don’t know for certain.
     
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  10. Gul Dukat

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    I was negative...? In what sense? Aren't you the one who said I'd make a bad juror and that I should work for a dishonest, left wing publication? This all just feels like projection because I haven't been any more "negative" than anyone else.
    Are you serious? You really didn't understand I was referring to the truthfulness of the man's statement rather than the accuracy of the reporting of his words?
    Right back atcha.
     
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    To ensure Justice is done Cobb county D.A. Joyette Holmes was named lead prosecutor.

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  12. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    yes we just don’t know. We can only believe what he said, and what patrons said. That is all we have to goon.

    This has been sensationalized in the media. You have also sensationalized it. I believe it was stupid and that this guy did a stupid Thing in order to make a statement. I don’t assume racist White guy. We have given him more thought than he is worth. I don’t know that he is in the klan. He might be and equally might not be. I tend to side on the positive possibility in humans, rather than the negative, you seem to side on thinking the worst in people. And that is how you have been negative.
     
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  13. Gul Dukat

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    I never said he was in the klan. And please don't pretend like you know how I think about people.
     
  14. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    ok so was this racist? Is he in the klan? Is he white?
     
  15. Gul Dukat

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    We've already been over this.
     
  16. soulcompromise

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    :laughing:

    omg, crows...
     
  17. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    ok so you make a lot of negative assumptions. Got it.
     
  18. Gul Dukat

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    Yup. Got me figured perty good.
     
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    So we are in agreement. :). Good.
     
  20. Gul Dukat

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    Nope.
     
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