Racism

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  1. I'minmyunderwear

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    you have a girlfriend? congrats! i hope it goes well.

    i'm curious what sort of littering would be inoffensive?
     
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  2. Tishomingo

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    It's my suspicion that it does.
     
  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Not if they are stopped at a lower rate that is proportionate to their population. The point is the suspicion is being black. Take crack cocaine as an example. It's a drug mostly sold and used in black areas. Coke is also one the top 2 drugs voters demand results on the other being opiates. So it's really easy for police to profile black communities and say it's not racist it's just the way crime is. The reality is that now every black man in the area where drugs are sold must be either a user or dealer.

    Most times a black person is stopped by police they will be told "we have a lot of drug activity around here" or they "match the description" of some crime that may or may not have even happened. Stop and Frisk is part of that. There is a lot of drug sales in this area so you would not mind if I just checked you.

    White middle class areas would never tolerate this but they calm it's fair for minorities. You are being detained without evidence or a witness. Take for example gun rights and how sensitive right wing white people are. They say it's unfair to say all gun owners are mass shooters or that all Trump voters are racist.. They get pissed when the same group assumptions apply to them. Can you imagine if every white person was stopped if they were driving or walking in a certain area? I'm sure Fox news would love that small goverment and respect of privacy.
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

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    That's another example of white privilege.

    You assume it's that simple for other people and that is the problem with the kind of people we allow to become police.
     
  5. unfocusedanakin

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    What do you think it is? Because it does. And admitting that does not mean your life was "easy" in any way.
     
  6. Tishomingo

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    The crime reported in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports is street crime. It's more prominent in ghetto areas because more action goes on in the streets and it's the kind of crime committed by lower class, desperate people. White collar crime (embezzelment, fraud, insider trading cybercrime, briberty, environmental law violations, etc) may be more serious in terms of economic cost and lives lost, but is less visible, and ordinarily doesn't occur on the street or in the ghetto. Also, the disparate impact of the judicial process on the advantaged and the disadvantaged. Tim Wise makes this point in an article which is highly critical of one of gc's sources, J.P. Rushton, for overlooking this.Race, Intelligence and the Limits of Science: Reflections on the Moral Absurdity of “Racial Realism”
     
  7. Tishomingo

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    I dunno. He looks kinda white. Anyhow, whether or not he said this has little to do with the points that he's making in the article, which seem to be valid. I'm not white, and I think you're worth saving.
     
  8. Tishomingo

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    You're talking about affirmative action introduced by LBJ on the theory that it wasn't sensible just to bring the blacks to the starting line of a race and tell them to compete, because they had been held down and couldn't compete on a level playing field. So they were remedial programs affirmative action. I agree that these programs were necessary to enable an educable element of disadvantaged minorities to get a college education and employment. The problem was always how long they should continue? I suspect there are diminishing returns from the program, as a hard core may not be reachable for more education. And the perception of "reverse discrimination" is always a problem in selling the program to the majority.
     
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  10. soulcompromise

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    Thank you.

    Yes! :) It's a reasonably new development. We're exclusively online though. It's sort of complicated - I'm learning Russian so that we can talk like normal people, and going to Kyrgyzstan in a year to visit.
     
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  11. phil1965

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    I think some of the most racist people in the UK are black!, they are certainly some of the most hypocritical people I have ever met, why is it wrong for me to refer to a black person as a ******, yet it's fine for a black person to do it? All this BLM stuff is shite too, there's a big fuss when a black bloke is killed by a white bloke anywhere in the world, the BLM mob are out rioting in protest, yet recently we have had, to my certain knowledge, in the UK at least three black on black killings, yet zero comments from the BLM bunch!
    We have had two high profile cases recently of blacks being pulled over in cars and in both cases the drivers have screamed racism, the first was when a woman was stopped for having illegally tinted windows, you could not see who was driving the car, (under UK traffic law, the front windscreen and front side windows must allow at least 75% of light through) yet this woman immediately starts screaming the police are being racist! To make matters worse she refused to comply with requests to exit the vehicle when it was stopped!
    We had another one in the last few days, a black driving a car slowly along a street, on the wrong side of the road, he failed to stop for police and when he was stopped, he decided to play the race card, typical. Driving slowly,against the traffic flow is asking to be stopped, how did the police know he wasn't looking to fire a gun through somebody's window, they didn't! Then to start getting all arsey when he finally was stopped, well there you go, they are becoming as bad as gypsies, they are another lot who think they are above the law.
    We are all supposed to be in lockdown and yet during this period what do we find, large groups of blacks on the streets of London holding parties, then when they start catching the virus, they moan that the virus is picking on them, well newflash, it isn't, if you are too thick to follow guidance then you deserve all you get!
     
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    It’s amazing how the death of one good man can set off a revolution

    BLM, Forever
     
  13. hotwater

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    That's a first time for me as well.

    I've never heard of the term offensive littering, but that's how it was reported on the news.

    Must be a term used exclusively in the pacific northwest
     
  14. Tishomingo

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    Farron, a bigot molded in the apartheid tradition of South Africa, is understandably upset that non-whites are making headway. He's been part of the "Preserving Western Civilization" movement and a darling of the neo-Nazi American Renaissance, so I consider anything from him to be unreliable propaganda requiring extensive fact checks. I think "the desire for diversity and a moral compulsion to right historical wrongs" were commendable goals, and while the results may not have lived up to the expectations of idealists, but the programs have made important strides in bringing well-qualified minorities into the American middle class.
     
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  15. phil1965

    phil1965 Senior Member

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    I don't have a problem with anyone getting a job on true merit, but over here in the UK lately it has gone stupid, it's all about diversity and quota's, if a white bloke who is fully qualified and experienced goes for a job and the other candidate is a black man, the black man will get the job regardless of his qualifications or experience and it's wrong!
    I knew this cop, he applied for a senior position, he had all the qualifications and more importantly the right experience, he didn't get it, instead they gave it to a coloured fella because they needed more people from 'minorities' in top jobs! It's not just colour it's everything, in London we have a chief of police who is useless, her only qualification for the job is that she is a lesbian, someone said they needed more gays and lesbians in the force, a position opened up and although she wasn't the best person for the job, she applied and got it, based solely on the fact that she is a lesbian, it's so wrong it really is.
     
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  16. phil1965

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    Quite, and that seems to be what a lot of people want, the easy way! I had to study and go to college to get my qualifications, it wasn't always easy but it was what I wanted so I had to do it. Now people want the jobs without doing the training and sadly there are certain groups of our society that try to use discrimination as a way of getting what they want without doing any hard work, such as,
    I didn't get the job because I'm black or I din't get the job becasue of my sexual orientation, or I didn't get the job because of my religious beliefs.
    Well how about facing reality, have you ever considered that perhaps the real reason you didn't get the job is because you were either lacking in the correct qualifications, lacking experience, or just plain unsuitable!
    The way things are going we're going to have paedophiles working in childrens day nurseries next!
     
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  17. 6-eyed shaman

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    Terms like “reverse discrimination” and even worse “positive discrimination” were invented by racist liberals who see discrimination and prejudice as a one-way street.

    Black people have potential for greatness and achievement; just like everyone else. I am so sick of the narrative that their color makes them oppressed victims of the system. And treating them like disabled charity cases. This isn’t empowerment. It’s the bigotry of low expectations
     
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    So we erase 4 centuries of overt discrimination and more than a century of covert discrimination with a generation of affirmative action? Get real, it’s still going on....the white supremacist in the White House and his cronies are glaring example. To begin to make amends the US needs to stop digging the hole deeper, and that ain’t happening yet. I have seen covert discrimination against women and minorities in job selection in my years in Federal and State service and it’s not pretty. And the private sector is worse.
     
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  19. Tishomingo

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    Actually, I think the term "reverse discrimination" was invented in the 1970s by folks on the right like you, and their lawyers.
     
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  20. Tishomingo

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    It puts on a front, and talks about "race realism" but beneath the academic exterior lies a veritable fountainhead of virulent racism, with ties to Neo-nazi groups and the KKK.
    White Nationalist Jared Taylor Writes Foreword for ‘Racial Civil War’ Book | Right Wing Watch
    Hiding in Plain Sight: An American Renaissance of White Nationalism
    You left out some items from Taylor's resume, like the fact that he served as spokesman for the white supremacist group Council of Conservative Citizens, successor to the segregationist white citizens councils of the 50s & 60s.

    I'll give Taylor credit on one issue. Unlike many of his associates, he's not an Anti-Semite. You've told us you're Jewish. (Who would have guessed behind the Nordic exterior? Are you good with money? ) Maybe that's the basis of attraction to Jared, but the pseudo-scientific garbola he and his associates put out has a sad history. First they came for the blacks, but I was not a black..etc. Not all of Taylor's associates are Jew-friendly.
     
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