Racism

Discussion in 'People' started by Mamluke, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    If you met Jane and did not end up chatting about Ireland, she would wonder why you were ignoring an important part of her. Likewise, if we met, I would be interested in your African American origins and their customs.

    I have no doubt that what you say is true, but don't you find that discrimination laws muddy the waters and actually help racist people get away with it.

    I worked with an Indian guy many years ago and we were always joking about not mixing tea up with the curry powder. Far from being offended, he liked the fact that I did not ignore his origins and it was not long before he invited me to his home for a REAL curry.
    40 years on, we still keep in touch and I am one of the few people who know his wife and family.

    Do you not think that laws about how you should treat people with different origins tends to build barriers where they don't exist in the first place.
    Perhaps things are different in the UK.
     
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  2. Mamluke

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    That makes a lot of sense I wonder how can someone wake up being that way and go to sleep being that way don't they ever get tired.it amazes me how people can hold onto a beliefs like that
     
  3. Mamluke

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    It been my experience that when I ask people about the country or culture or give them a compliment they tend to be very offended and get angry
     
  4. Gul Dukat

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    Took me years to pick up on certain ideas and things I grew up around were racist.

    In fact, a few years back I was visiting my father and he made a comment, and I thought
    Holy shit, my dad is racist af and doesn't even know it.
    Don't get me wrong, he's a good man and is decent to everyone. In fact if asked if he were racist he would respond sincerely, "I don't think so."

    Shit is insidious.
     
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  5. Eric!

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    If they didn’t make these laws, this would still happen freely:

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  6. Mamluke

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    I see that non Americans have. less problem with being racist than Americans
     
  7. Eric!

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    Non-Americans? Who specifically?
     
  8. Eric!

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    All cultures have racists- every one of them.
     
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  9. Meliai

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    This fucking picture
    Has haunted me for years. I forget where I first saw it, some sort of book on southern history my mom had lying around maybe. But it's always stuck with me in such detail.

    the guy to the left of the picture, holding hands with the girl in the polka dot dress...he is smiling.

    That picture is a true reflection of man's capacity for evil
     
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  10. Meliai

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    I've recently gotten in touch with my aunt and uncle after years of not being in touch. They're in their 80s and they're really the sweetest people. But they're also kinda racist in such a weird, casual way and it throws me off everytime they let something slip. So disconcerting.

    Schools weren't desegregated here until 1970. They would have been in their 30s and raising school aged children by then. So strange to think about.
     
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  12. Mamluke

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    Hispanics cause I live around them
     
  13. 6-eyed shaman

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    I can relate a bit. My grandma who passed away last year was kind of the same way. I don’t think she had a hateful bone in her body, but her choice of words at times about certain people were very......... outdated..... to say the least. I don’t think she meant harm by it, but in her day it was ok to say some things.

    For instance I remember checking out a book at the library about moss species to write a college paper. The book was printed in 1931, and the very first paragraph on page 1 was (from my memory):

    “All moss looks the same to me. All negros look the same to me. All Chinese people look the same to me. Well, to the Chinese and negros, people like you look all the same. It isn’t until you take a closer look to have a better understanding that there’s more that meets the eye when looking at moss or other people.”

    I wish I still had the book. It was mind blowing.
     
  14. hotwater

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  15. tumbling.dice

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    I watched an episode of Through The Wormhole with Morgan Freeman that dealt with shooter bias in America's police departments. The gist of it is that when officers have to make a split second decision whether or not to shoot they will more often shoot at a black citizen than non-black. What I found particularly interesting is that black police officers also have this bias. I don't really have a point, except to say we got a ways to go.

    How racist stereotypes make police bias almost impossible to fight
     
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  16. I'minmyunderwear

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    acknowledged. i actually thought about that for a minute before posting and couldn't think of any, but you just popped out with two good ones.
     
  17. NubbinsUp

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    Being American is part of the definition of being Hispanic. They aren't non-American. People who identify as Hispanic are, by definition, American. The term was invented in the US for self-identification of ethnicity by people living in the US. Hint: the word is anglicized. It isn't a term that's used outside the US.

    Even if a person refers to himself or herself as Hispano or Hispana (short for hispanoparlante or hispanohablante), threre's more than a 90 percent chance that they're American, North or South American.

    Generalizing the 50 million people who identify as "Hispanic or Latino" in the US as "having less problem with being racists" is bigotry on the basis of National Origin under US law. You're free to believe this, but keep it out of the workplace, or you will find yourself unemployed rather quickly, rightly so.
     
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  18. Asmodean

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    Some 'hispanic' (which if I understand correctly doesn't refer to spanish people in american english? But to latin american people) families lived longer on US land than most Americans of caucasian origin.
     
  19. Asmodean

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    'let that sink in' :-D
     
  20. Meliai

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    Many hispanics are a mix of african, European, and indigenous ancestry. Not sure you can get more american than that
     

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