Questions For Socialist

I think Donald Trump and Alex Jones are stupid.

 

Surveys of those who call themselves moral have revealed some 80% don't apply their own moral standards to themselves, while a study of Wall Street traders concluded their ethics go up and down with the stock market. Hence, the problem with socialism is that it is a moral theory in search of a nonexistent moral society. Other studies of morality have revealed that those individuals who are raised in extended families or who regularly volunteer the use of their own two hands in service to their community, actually live up to their own moral standards and thrive better in the long run. Note that none of these studies require rocket science and they could have all been done hundreds of years ago, but never were, because modern civilization is based on dualistic logics that promote morality and institutionalized insanity over metaethics.

All of western civilization and modern academia can be described as based on the idea that people are inherently evil or bad, otherwise, the world would not be such a mess and, therefore, society and its institutions must do everything in their power to impose moral standards. The simple truth is, the whole idea is just so much blue smoke and mirrors used to ensure the money keeps flowing, because we already know how to encourage people to adopt higher moral standards, without having to rely on televangelists or whatever. Neither capitalists nor socialists have anything particularly meaningful to say about metaethics, because they simply don't fit into their institutionalized worldviews that are currently destroying the entire world ecology in the name of growth and progress.

Quite the contrary, Richard Dawkins is a famous Oxford evolutionary theorist and leader of militant atheists worldwide, who invented his own nonsense word "meme" encouraging millions to babble complete nonsense for years, in the name of survival of the fittest atheist and promoting a more moral society. One in five Americans insists the sun revolves around the earth, because they had the best teachers on the planet who taught them all how to share their words and play nice. Linguists literally had to give the word "meme" a minimalistic definition, otherwise, it would have gone in the dictionary encouraging billions more to babble complete nonsense for decades to come. The very idea that teachers are responsible for teaching their students how to share their words and play nice is anathema is the hallowed halls, where they pride themselves in teaching any idiot how to babble complete nonsense and argue nonstop according to two thousand years old rules of logic.

Until socialism can be based on first principles and prove itself to be superior, it is just more blue smoke and mirrors, based on the same bullshit that contradicts all the evidence. If people were inherently evil, we'd already be an extinct species, and it is the idea that we are inherently evil and that everything must make sense to us personally, that is currently threatening the entire planet. Socialism that promotes sharing your words and playing nice, according to the empirical evidence, has never been invented despite the concept being rather simple to grasp, because it cannot be categorized and quantified yet by modern science, however, all that is about to change. AI is the future, because there never was any intelligent life around here.

 

The USSR was not a good place for the everyday people, who had no say in its running and risked ending up in the salt mines if they spoke out. They were restricted from leaving the country and by other European countries their standards of living were poor.

Sadly, the inevitable happened when the dictatorship ended and criminal gangs ran wild. The thousands of military who ran the dictatorship should have been formed into police forces to PROTECT everyday law abiding citizens, but this did not happen.
If you visit London, you will feel fairly safe and free to speak your mind (unless you are robbing banks or prompting terrorism). You will probably never cast a thought about the 31,000 police officers who work in London alone to keep the streets safe without threatening your civil liberty and rights of free speech.

I feel terribly sorry for Putin and the challenges he faces in a Russia that has moved into the 21st century far too fast.

Answer me honestly. Prior to Gorbachev, would you be where you are today and able to chat to us freely on HF.?

 

If you were living under Lenin today. After posting your views about him in the same way as you have been about our prime minister, I wonder if you would have time to post on HF after your 14 hour shift in a Siberian salt mine and a good kicking for not working fast enough.

 

I'm surprised anyone thinks nostalgically about "Uncle Lenin" He was a monster--not on the scale of Uncle Joe, but getting there. In 1919, he instituted the Red Terror, carried out by the Cheka secret police. which had unlimited authority to execute anyone they regarded as a counterrevolutionary or an enemy of the people without a trial. Cheka chief Martin Latsis explained: ;Do not look in the file of incriminating evidence; (to find out who is an enemy of the people.). Ask instead to which class he belongs, what is his background, his education, his profession. These are the questions that determine the fate of the accused.;(Albats ,1994). The first victims were the kulaks, the wealthier peasants whom Lenin suspected of hoardng grain. Comrades,he wrote,you must make an example of these people. Hang (I mean publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards,and known bloodsuckers,1; Bertrand Russell mentions a chilling part of his interview with Lenin in 1920, when Lenin told him: You see, there are poor peasants and rich peasants. We stirred up the poor peasants against the rich peasants and they soon hanged them from the nearest tree, Haw, Haw, Haw, Haw.

Socialism isn't Leninism. Leninism is a particular form of Socialism grounded in Lenin's distinctive brand of Marxist ideology and totalitarian control we know as Communism. Capitalists like to equate the two to paint all Socialism with the Soviet brush. Socialists play into their hands for calling, even jokingly, for a return to Uncle Lenin.

 

According to some conservatives, Big Bird is an evil commie plot, while one in five Americans insists the sun revolves around the earth, yet, you are surprised. Somehow, I don't believe you. The question is, what the hell is socialism, when there are wildly different definitions of the term. Classically, it refers to a government that owns the infrastructure and basic means of production, such as the electrical company. In the US today, it refers to any government that doesn't spend my tax dollars on what I want, with Libertarian politicians even commonly calling each other commies. Unless socialists can prove they share their words and play nice, they are just more idiots arguing over the definition of stupid.

Call Lenin whatever you want, but his brand of socialism is the only one that has been popular and fits the classic definition. Socialism that isn't popular, is known as tyranny.

 

I beg to differ, didn't Lenin employ Feliks Derzhinski ??? Derzhinski had ways and means of dealing with recalcitrants !!!

 

Yes, there was another time then, no internet, under the communist party I couldn't speak to you freely about politics

 

Yes he did! Only first you need to come to power!

 

So we whistle up the Kronstadt Commmune !!!

 

And now you have discovered that cities like London are a perfectly safe place to live and you can discuss your feelings without being thrown down a salt mine.

The principals of communism are perfectly good. The problem is that far from running the country, the everyday citizens soon fall under a dictatorship.
Perhaps the only country where communism seems to work reasonably is China, But they still have their problems.

Here in the UK, we had state ownership of many public sector companies, such as railways, gas and electricity, but they were inefficient and the workers took little pride in their work.
Since privatization, they have been asset stripped and we are no better off.

The problems facing all democracies are greed and lust for power.
When the EEC first formed, it worked well. A few decades later, we have ended up with the EU and all its power hungry idiots.

 

Exactly!
This is especially evident here in Russia.

 

When you walk into a shop, the standard of service entirely depends on the staff and management. It has nothing to do with the sign over the door. Reputable companies appoint good staff, but their is still a lot of variation.

The same is true when you look at the running of a city, a country and even a continent.

Russia still has a power hungry military command, making it difficult for any president. The same is true of the US, hence the derailing of all attempts for Putin and Trump to develop a friendly relationship.
I feel sorry for Putin. He is running a country where the military are busy preparing for a war that does not exist, while with the lack of restrictions on the public has lead to the rise of a mafia. Sadly this is playing into the hands of the hard-line communists who want to return to a state where no one has a voice.
Sadly, Putin realizes that if he goes too far, too fast in the introduction of a western type democracy, he may have a fatal accident while he is out riding his horse.

Here in London we have 31,000 police officers, but since their main function is prevention of organized crime, they have no interest in interfering with law abiding citizens.
If you ever visit London, you will see for yourself how the police service operates and who knows, you may even meet our daughter. LOL

 

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