questions about LSD and mirrors

unless its a metaphorical mirror!

 

i just think its because you're staring at your face, staring at your face so of course it's gonna get fucked up. lol.

 

I don't think anyone here has claimed that.

And Mr.Writer, I was thinking that probably has a lot to do with it too. Still, I wonder what people with good self esteem see and what people with low self esteem see. What narcissists see, what ugly people see, etc. I always hear reports of individuals seeing frightening or bizarre distortions and I wonder if it's possible for someone who is very attractive or even a narcissist to look in the mirror and see an even more angelic-like or pleasant image than ever before.

I think a lot of it might even have to do with feedback issues. Every reaction to your own face creates an expression which creates another reaction, etc. And the effect this creates is just plain trippy.

 

This is quite interesting. I think it all depends on the person. I have no problem looking in the mirror on LSD. To me it's just like looking at anything else.

Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that one is locked into their ego unless they completely obliterate it with an altered state of consciousness. Meaning you can't look at your ego because it's not really there, until it's gone. I don't know of a different way to word that last sentence.

Now are you talking about actual visual distortions being the culprit? If this is the case then remember how your brain works. It filters out information that it thinks it can do without. Now since facial recognition is such a complex and important psychological process in our brains, the prominence of visual distortions on your own face may be a result of your brain "filtering out" your surroundings because your brain will notice your face before anything else.

It's weird how your brain thinks without your consent.


I tried my best to explain that with my narrow and depleting vocabulary.

Cheers!

 

interesting that you say this because I have a friend who has a very low self esteem and confident and said that when he looked in the mirror it didnt scare him!

but then again he has a pretty stupid ego...

 

Looking in the mirror =/= ego death

 

breaking mirror while tripping ,, oh shit thats some bad mojo there.. Im out.. :leaving:

 

alot of it has to do with the drug you are on to. I don't like looking in the mirror on LSD (i think i look ugly and start breaking myself down) but on 2ci, and MDMA I like the way I look, on mescaline it looks 'cool' and looking in the mirror on ketamine I just find ridiculous.

I guarantee a narcissit can fall in love with a mirror on MDMA.

 

I could fall in love with mirror, If I shaved my legs and put on panties..

 

I don't get scared looking at myself in the mirror on acid, at least no more than the usual startle when I get a peep at my own mug.

For me it was always a conundrum of "how could all that I am experiencing be contained within this meatsack?"

Not fear, but shock at how confining our physical form is relative to our awareness.

 

Yes, the ego is a fearful thought.

 

i will tell you how i felt last time i took acid - i completely broke. the last thing i remember before losing my ego was hearing whispering in my ear - sounded like aliens, i couldn't understand it though - it's like information was just flowing into me - then i heard what sounded like the ocean. life itself was sine - motion. everything was repeating. every single day we have a new chance to try to be new people - EVERY DAY. every day is a new life - so weird to explain.

what it's like to lose your ego; you don't care how you look - the mirror becomes something scary - i was literally scared of looking into the mirror - i knew if i looked into it something bad would happen - i would regain my ego - even though when you lose your ego you don't think "oh wow i just lost my ego" - it's more like, my whole life has been a lie - i've been striving to be SOMETHING, though I AM NOTHING - we are just part of the system God created - but instead of being part of the system, we have created our own system - the HUMAN system - we've run away from what God made - and made this world into our own. instead of natural healing - LITERALLY, we've turned to drugs, doctors, and the such - all because of love of money: the root of all evil - i stopped caring how i looked, i stopped caring how i smelled - i stopped caring about people's opinions about me - it got so "bad" to the point that i realized even the clothes on my back were a part of my ego, i wanted to go live in the forest with the animals and just BE - not be something - but just be - I didn't want to pretend I existed, i already DID - i was no one - i hated pictures of myself - proving more that i was just trying to be something - i cut up my S.S. card - i wanted to destroy anything that gave me IDENTITY in this world - everyone turns into someone you never knew - acting on presets of thought - or what you would call an EGO (who they see themselves as) - instead of the moment itself.

toward the beginning of the trip i felt like "the one" - toward the end of the trip I felt like the anti-Christ.

info: low self esteem, early twenties, Christian, American citizen, Born in Ukraine, started doing drugs, raving, and running after girls after I quit going to church

what I learned from the experience: everyone wants to control you - and they're keeping a close eye on each one of us - making sure we conform to "their" lifestyle. if you want to be one of God's kids you're TRULY not going to fit in. In fact - being an American citizen requires that you have a job - getting a job requires that you look appropriate, smell appropriate, act appropriate, and conform - making sure you always check the mirror before you come into work.

i still can't believe I'm here - on Earth. I hate it here. The fall is great - we sin daily - there is no way to be what God wants us to be when we conform to HUMAN standards - because they are not God's standards. Do I recommend drugs to lose your ego? No - I recommend GIVING UP. Giving up? Cut yourself OFF. Don't build your ego in any way. Stop caring about this life. Whoever saves their life will lose it. There's so much more out there that the people on top don't want us to see. They don't want us to see that we're truly a moment away from being machines. We're not machines - we're sons and daughters of God. As soon as you're worthless to society and to everyone - you think anyone will care if you're gone? of course not - YOU'RE A NOBODY. Welcome to life - the most ridiculous game ever. The winner is the loser. Get it?

 

Step away from the acid

 

I was going to just mention a couple of things to remember, but hell, I think you covered all 10 +
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=405733&f=117

 

I think when you're tripping really hard, the mirror shows you what you think of yourself

 

lol i've stared at myself in the mirror for hours before while tripping, literally squatted up on my sink, really close to the mirror, just shouting "Who are you??! WHO ARE YOU???"

 

You're saying the ego is your worst enemy correct? i know this is true, but it is indeed possible to navigate your way around the illusions the ego creates. and you find yourself, you can have an enlightened ego. and that's when you've won the game

 

the goal is not to have an "enlightened ego"; that has the potential to be more dangerous than anything else.

 

maybe not literally an enlightened ego, but an enlightened person still has an ego to some extent

 

when ever i am tripping ithink that faces and the whole human body looks funny, almost alien like. and even my own face and body. when im tripping really hard some times people look like they are drawn like cartoons or look like they have more eyes i think that we the human race are a very funny looking creature