Gayness is having sex with another guy or being in love with another guy.Am I wrong? In Greek mythology there are some gay myths like one that Apollo liked a man(the only one that is truely gayness) but you can not tell that friendship like Hercules and Iolaus or Patroklus and Achilleus is gayness.It is just loyal friendship and nothing more.
epiczeoxxi, my cute little Eromenos, let Shale an experienced Erastes tell you a little Greek history - that thru censorship or denial you seem ignorant of. Ancient Greeks had the same longings that modern Greeks have, but they did not have all the Paulist Christian taboos against expressing those feelings. In fact, male/male bonding is a natural occurence of our species and the Greeks followed a very natural social structure. Those Spartans, whether they wore leather Bikinis or not, did do each other in the barracks which was the center of their lives. They had to make more Spartans so they took leave on their own time to go fuck their ol' lady - then it was back to the barracks with the boys. The Greeks knew the value of an army that lays together stays together. As Plato said, "A handful of lovers and loved ones, fighting shoulder to shoulder, could rout a whole army. For a lover to be seen by his beloved forsaking the ranks or throwing away his weapon would be unbearable. he would a thousand times rather die than be so humiliated." Hence the Spartans as well as the Sacred Battalion of Thebes, which was composed entirely of pairs of lovers, were legendary in the ancient world. So, my lovely Eromenos, that is your heritage. Also, your heritage is the early Christian church in which St. Paul wanted to differentiate his Greek converts from the regular Greeks who shamelessly embraced same-gender love, so the sanctions against that love became a part of the Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches. But like everything else that tries to suppress nature, nature slips thru and even the priests succumb to it, bringing back the natural relationship of Eromenos and Erastes, which was part of the Greek culture. I wish I could take you under arm, like a true Erastes and impart to you the wisdom of the world that you so lack.
"Homosexuality is a necessary niche of nature's grand diversity,..." Australian Greens leader, Senator Bob Brown. I thought to quote Brown after reading Shale's offering. A friend of mine tells me there are hundreds of offerings (gay blogs, with pictures) from Greek authors on the WWW. To our young Greek pal, Epiczeroxxi, all I can say is that he try to understand 'diversity,' the realization that we can all respect each others' niches and live in peace. To Shale, a minor disagreement: I blame Clement I for the Roman biases. He was (and the church remains) much more hostile to anything he considered feminine - including gays - than Paul. The present Greek Church is highly more tolerant of all than the Roman Church. :cheers2:
Never here, thought about it a couple times when I was blazed out of my mind but never acted on it. Just ain't my thing. As for Greeks? They make San Francisco people look straight. They didn't have the idea of sexual orientations, they were just sexual.
I had blowjobs from male friend, and I also sucked my male friends cock, was ok. Had and gave anal too. Now I'm on the pussy full time, but wouldn't necessarily turn a cock down.
I don't know if I would consider it having sex with other boys, but I did have a classmate in middle school that I let suck my cock every now and then. He's the one that actually gave me my first blowjob.
Natural curiosity and messing around, for masturbation, having a basic idea from talking with friends. Listening to some talk about it, reading some when it comes to with women. And trying, practising
I wish I had found this out as a kid. Looking back I see some signs but different times back then. Didn’t find out till my mid 30s by this time I was married w kids. I think had. Known I would be living a completely different life
I never had sex with another guy in my teens (even though I knew I was bisexual. My first "gay sex" (in my early 20s) was magical, and came totally natural to me. I learned a lot about myself (especially that I'm a total bottom, and sexually submissive with men). I've been hooked ever since
I experiemented as a preteen and early teen. I lost interest in boys in high school but would revisit my curiosity as a late teen. Looking back, I wished I had the courage to be what I am today and more. If I had continued to follow my urges, I'd most definitely be gay right now.