QuÉbec Is Now It's Own Nation!

Front de la Liberation de Quebec (Quebec Liberation Front). Terrorist organization pursuing Quebec Seperation. Funded itself on bank robberies, mostly, and in October of 1970 they kidnapped James Cross, a British diplomat, and the Quebec labour minister (Pierre Laporte). Pierre Trudeau invokes the War Measures act (which allows people to be arrested without cause, denied access to a lawyer, etc) which remains controversial to this day. Pierre Laporte is found dead in the trunk of a car (the FLQ sends a note). The leaders of that cell are caught, and James Cross is freed.

Invoking the War Measures Act was, and still is, highly controversial among Quebecois scholars.

Also, Michaelle Jean's (Canada's Governor General) husband reportedly had FLQ connections.

 

Except it is a matter of their opinion, not yours, and for the most part they quite clearly feel threatened.

This was related only to why they felt no need to fight in either World War 1 or 2 despite France's involvement.

And you happen to be so well researched in the issue - there are several.

You might want to hide that red neck...

You're so badly misinformed on this issue I don't know why I'm even arguing with you.

Your opinions on this issue are already crystallized - there isn't much reason to keep arguing . But it's opinions like yours that are driving towards seperation rather than a workable solution.

 

*shrugs* alright... :bs:

... if I've asked once, I've asked a dozen times.... WHAT ARE THEY? or is it a secret?


:hysterica maybe if Quebec leaves, then the issue would finally be over and done with. As long, of course, that those wanting to separate are willing to take the responsibility that goes along with it. I've yet to read or see anyone accepting it. All it's been is snivelling and whining that Quebec hasn't left yet.

Calling me a red neck isn't offensive, or even mature. So, whatever to that.

If I'm badly informed, I've yet to read by anyone posting pro-separation in this thread to inform me properly on the issue. Convince me with a valid point and I'll gladly change my mind. I've read much snivelling though.

:beatdeadh Also, if I'm not worth arguing with, then drop the issue already. This topic has run its course in interest YEARS ago.


:leaving:

 

jivre

maybe you are not the guy to argue this, you havnt rebuted ONE thing or fact I have said, just called me names, red neck and ignorant.........


typical french shit


maybe you could arhue what iH ave to say with some infromed faCTS......
but you cant and yet you will still pass the buck and blame some one else.....



you call me a red neck,
you look like a doped up frog~!~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!


get some english education, then join the argument!!~!!!!!!!

foo femme de chene



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balding wierdo!!!!!!

 

amen to cerrwidens last post

 

thanks blinkin....

all these Quebecers keep pickin' on me.... They hate ya if you want them to stay, they hate ya when ya agree they should leave.... they're just never happy.

If you want Quebec to stay, then it must mean you're oppressing them, if you want them to leave, then they argue that you're being prejudice to their French culture. How do you win?

And on a final note.... the last time the Bloc's leader went to plea to France to see if they'd side with Quebec, France laughed in their face because their opinion - much like much of Canada - is that QUEBEC DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN! Wanting to leave, in itself, IS NOT A PLAN. Just because France speaks french, doesn't automatically mean they're going to side with Quebec.

Besides, if Quebec had a decent enough game plan for independance, they wouldn't need any other gov't from any other country to stick up for them. Learn to fight your own battles.

If you want to leave, then do it already. If you want to stay, quit your bitching and stay, appreciate what you have instead of whining about what you don't.

 

Quebec talks distinction. The rest of Canada acts distinction. Canada is an extremely racist country. In the 80's the doors were closed to non-controlled immigration from Britian and it has been hell on wheels. Canada was founded by numerous different races but the Anglo's continue to think it is all theirs. The British folded in their war with the French, so now the French have every right to be their own nation.

Canada has been divided since it's formation because of the British Connection, the same connection that has kept it at odds with the USA. This has been facilitated because Britian is scared shitless that the Europeans will isolate and destroy it.

Harper gave Quebec it's freedom and there is no going back and Canada will rule the day it allowed Harpo to rule. If Quebec is smart it will become a state of France so it can join the EU and with that economic power it will quickly become a trading partner with the mighty U.S. of A.

Right now Canada has no vision or direction.

 

read the oast poist there mork

 

Elsewhere on the forums....

http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217244

 

a) no system is perfect. Some are better than others, but nothing's perfect.

b) on the note of Canada being racist: Canada may be a lot of things, but I don't think that racism falls into that category. Canada is one of the most racially and culturally diverse countries in the world. Again, there may be flaws in our gov't and system, sadly, but that exists everywhere. Statuswise, though, we're more progressive than most other nations.

c) the French are absolutely entitled to having their own nation. I don't think that there's a debate about that issue. The core of the debate though, is whether the province has all their shit together enough to actually be an independant nation. Sadly, at this point, the answer is 'no'. If they're as serious as they say they are to be fully independant, I'm sure it'll happen one day, but we're not there yet.

d) as far as Quebec becoming a state of France.... well, let's just wait and see if France is willing to accept them as one.

 

I agree. You are still Canadians. And If you dont wanna be one...move. Thats what I dont get about the bloc and all the seperatists. If you dont like Canada just move!

 

EVERYONE is missing the fucking major point.

 

Le Québec, les plus belles femmes, les hommes les plus aimables! Les gens les plus sympatique et les plus ouverts d'esprits, les gens les plus passionés, les gens les plus unis! Les plus belles forêt, les plus belles vues, la plus belle culture, la plus belle langue! La diversité et les plus belles fêtes! La joie de vivre, la joie de SURVIVRE, le Québec n'est pas une simple province mais MON PAYS.

 

WaX, peut etre le raison que il n'ya pas des gens qui comprende votre opinion, c'est parce-que c'etait pas bien explique. C'est pas que on veux pas comprendre, c'est que on n'as pas l'information pour comprendre.

 

sounds more like your descibing BC, not quebec.
Having said that, I like Montreal and Quebec. I'd move there in a flash but don't really want to learn french, nor have to worry about the FLQ trying to kill, just because I'm english

 

what are you rambling about.

I explained plenty enough. so did spooner.

 

BC? Not exactly.

and the FLQ crisis you're reffering to was over 30 years ago buddy

 

je pense que vous n'avez jaimez habiter dans une autre place.

 

wax i love the way you put that, i do love montreal their culture is stunning
it is my opinion though, that quebec is nothing without canada, and canada is nothing without quebec
we need each other

 

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