Putting Las Vegas In Perspective

Jesus Christ, this one as an example

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/sites/default/files/source-screenshots/917820-www.rrdailyherald.com-1503374404.png

4 elderly people killed playing a card game during a home invasion. a measly $6000 reward for information leading to a conviction???


If that was my country, it would be all over the news, There it probably only made the local paper and a crappy $6000 reward....dafuq?

 

Welcome to America

 

I'm just glad we don't have a gun culture here in the U.K., and hope we never will. Knife attacks are common though.

 

Acid attacks are on the rise now because (as it stands now) you can't get done for carrying a bottle of acid. That's probably going to change.

I think I'd rather be stabbed or shot than have acid thrown in my face.

 

I probably agree. Solution? Wear a face mask. Phantom of The Opera...

 

I'm just glad I don't live in the city anymore!

Apparently under 18s can't buy acid now Amber Fudd just announced there as I posted that. I'm just wondering why the fuck children could already buy acid before? It'll hardly make any difference though since it's not difficult to get a hold of caustic substances..

Sorry, bit off topic. A bit of "perspective" on equivalent societal threats from rogue nut jobs in the UK though? Acid attacks here right now have become a serious issue like the threat of gun violence in the US.

 

I think it's time for us--and I absolutely include myself in there--to take responsibility on this issue.

We can't keep going, "Yeah, but the Second Amendment..." which was written at a time when it would take a week to get off as many shots as Paddock did in a few minutes.

There's a reason the Constitution can be changed: It's because our Founding Fathers were smart enough to understand that 1787 and 2017 were going to be radically different. It's a fluid document, designed to evolve alongside the ever-changing world.

A man unloading from the 32nd floor of a building is not a "well-regulated militia."

In the past, I've voted along the lines of the most lenient of gun laws, because I come from a gun-toting family that has never killed anything. But that excuse wouldn't mean anything to the families of yesterday's victims. And I would feel sickened and ashamed to admit that to them. My contributions to this, no matter how minuscule, still stand.

We as Republicans need to do what's right for our nation and admit and acknowledge--and let our voting habits reflect this acknowledgement--that the unchecked Second Amendment ideal we embraced for far too long has had lethal consequences for our countrymen.

"I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home."

The late, great President Ronald Reagan said that. And today's conservatives would consider such talk a threat to their "Second Amendment rights."

This is unacceptable and it needs to stop. And if your rights to own a machine gun is more important to you than human life, you are a bigger part of this problem than I am.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51clP7JRqv8

 

^^^was amusing but had nothing to do with hunting.

 

It's an old survey (from 2007) but I doubt things have changed much. So think quick, which country has the most gun ownership by civilians?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Wonder what the problem is???

 

In 1999, according to this poll, 49% of gun owners said they owned a gun for hunting purposes and 26% for self defense. By 2013 the numbers had basically reversed with 48% of gun owners reported they owned one for self defense

http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/12/why-own-a-gun-protection-is-now-top-reason/

We are a nation living in fear aren't we? And yet we scratch our heads when someone goes off the rails like this. Its like a self sustaining cycle - the more mass shootings happen the more paranoid and afraid we become, the more paranoid and afraid we become the more likely our society is to produce alienated, hateful assholes who are capable of this

I've been doing some research into gun trends and its fucking fascinating to see the damage NRA propaganda has inflicted on our national psyche. In 1959 60% of people polled thought handguns should be illegal...fucking handguns, we're not talking assault weapons here. And by 2016 that number had dipped to 23%. This has a lot of different graphs showing historical trends and its really interesting - http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

The good thing is it looks like gun ownership is on the decline, judging by the first graph on that site

But, and I'm speaking from personal experience here, it seems like some gun owners are getting more hysterical with it and stockpiling guns rather than owning one or two so while gun ownership by household is down, gun sales are not - I wont link a graph to that one as its easily verifiable, gun sales have hit record highs in recent years. I personally know a lot of "gun enthusiasts" and most of them have gone from owning maybe a handgun and a rifle to collecting as many guns as they can in recent years.

 

I will just never wrap my head around guns for anything.....guns...period....guns for hunting. No...one day humankind may reach some knind of era of enlightenment about many things. One can only hope.

 

I've noticed something generationally similar in my own family. Both my granddads where gun owners, WWII vets and all that...quite conservative in their own day. By gun owners, I mean they each owned a 12 gauge shotgun and a rifle. My paternal granddad also had a .32 calibre pistol he aquired when he was in the army (I forgot the story behind that.) There is no way that either would have owned multiple 'assault rifles'. They would have considered it a stupid waste of money. Some of my younger cousins, however, would disagree. I am wondering if it could be something as simple as the privilegded attitude that so many young people apparently suffer from today. They have to have the best of everything: a new Dodge hemi, the latest iPhone, Assassins Creed: Origins, a new boat, 75" flat screen TVs, glutten-free cuisine, $200 sneakers and so on. Maybe the reasoning goes that AR-15s converted to fully automatic exist therefore I must have as many as possible.

As far as the home defense argument goes, I inherited my granddad's 12 gauge double barrel. I feel quite safe.

 

If you had guns you could stop that shit.

 

I agree with the your father. If you want to shoot bottles and cans, a 22 is all you need. It's fun. Hunting isn't for me, but shooting non-living things is a good time.

But, yeah...the need for a gun that spits out 50 bullets in two seconds baffles me.

 

Multi-shot assault weapons existed in pre-constitutional times. So your musket argument sucks.