Pussy Paradox

*Le Sigh*

Here's an idea--we're all human beings before we're male/female, black/white, gay/straight, etc. So why not try relating to her like she's another person instead of another vagina and maybe you'll meet someone who treats you like you're a person instead of a mindless penis-drone...

...Then again, maybe you won't. You have a friend who's single and 30? How does that prove anything? I was 24 before I lost my virginity because I never trusted men to have actual hearts instead of just dicks, and it just so happened that I met my now-husband and things changed for me. He was different, and I could tell right away. There wasn't any skill or perspective change that made me meet him, I just did. It was largely chance. It wasn't really my "fault" I was single all those years, just like it wasn't my "fault" that I met him.

People take things waaaay to personally when it comes to asking themselves why they're single. Some people are perfectly decent human beings, they just have personalities that don't mesh well with most people on an intimate level. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with them or that they necessarily need to change anything, it just is what it is.

Men and women both like to pretend that their respective sexes have it the hardest in regards to the dating game. They only think this because they don't have to deal with their own sex (assuming they're straight). I'm sure if I had to date women I'd start to get irritated with them too. But the point is it goes both ways, so stop playing the victim.

 

YES! This is razor sharp truth - and it applies to everything. If you participate in these kind of conventions and systems, then you're only perpetuating and validating them. Don't you think women are bored to fucking death with these rules and conventions as well? Ignore all of this bullshit, live your life, express your self honestly and value yourself. Stop measuring yourself by who you're shagging, or who you're not shagging - it's meaningless. Stop wasting your energy on chasing after bullshit. Put all that energy into your own development and evolution and you'll never have to worry about being alone again.

 

Just because you see a tiny window, doesn't mean we all do.

 

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Maybe I would, if 90% of women didn't wait around to being talked to. Female entitlement... what great company!

That's cuz Duck's in a relationship, and has been since early age 21. He has no idea.

In fact, save for the few brave men (and the one that repp'd me in private) has had the balls to admit the truth, instead of giving idealistic "just be you man!" advice. The rules of attraction still aply.

*shrugs*

I will continue to test the game.. holding on to my own personality. Because fuck that tiny window of 'acceptable' behavior, but this whole clingly/creepy or nice/asshole thing, and especially female entitlement, sitting on your sorry pretty ass while the male does everything (read: "leads), is fucking trash.

This is why the company of 'women' becomes so difficult. This is why the world is f'd.

:sunny:

 

Whining is never attractive, whether you're male or female. If you hate women so much, go date a nice gay guy, or hire a prostitute, or masturbate the rest of your life. The possibilities are endless. But for the love of god stop whining. You're only a victim if you choose to be.

 

good thing the internet provides an anonymity for my whining.

we don't hate women. i wish we could relate to females as people first - and i do a lot of the times, and you know what? i've got a lot of female friends that way.

it isn't a point of being victimized, it is simply the statement of a position. something to get through by verbalizing it. much like people discuss the problems of the economy or their financial situations.


if you don't agree that the majority of females sit back and wait to be engaged by a male, you aren't paying attention. that isn't necessarily a bad thing - it is how it has usually been for a long time (but it is always a changing pool) . the point is that it is a stressful and frustrating system to deal with.

females have related frustrations, they are just not the same.


and it is true - women's advice on how men should act is usually fucking terrible.

 

My compliments to whoever defies Strawberry_Fields_Fo and does or says something for reasons other than it being attractive.

 

@OP and Walsh:

Are you familiar with Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)? They are a men`s rights group, and I believe, a decent alternative to PUA. They have a forum and a lot of youtube stuff. Check out TheHappyMisogynist. I think they overstate their case, but I identify with many of their points.

As I partially identify with the male dating blues in this thread. I think we have definitely reached a point in human history in which women are on average more douchey and assholey than men.

In the end though, we`re not entitled to pussy. Women seem to have no problem going without in order to use their pussy as a bargaining chip. Men can do the same.

In the words of Tupac Shakur, "Niggas gotta go back to the O.G. penitentiary style and start jacking off. Bitches are going to kill us. We`re killing each other! Every nigga that dies, it`s a bitch that was horny the night before. Bitches get horny, niggas die!"

Also realize that we`re rejecting the fatties and washboards that make up 90% of women out there. And, you`re probably assuming that the doormats who come in here and pretend to have no trouble picking up chicks, and whatnot, just by being themselves are getting more poon than they actually are.

Youtube actually took down the entire interview. Lame-o:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ2Ai_Or-40&feature=related"]Tupac's Changing Views on females - YouTube

 

niggaz got t' do what a nigga's gonna do

boom boom she boom


niggaz got t' do what a nigga's gonna do

boom boom she boom


who you gonna screw

is completely up t' you

who you gonna do

is completely up t' you

cuz a niggaz got t' do what a nigga's gonna do

I mean it's really up t' you

It's really up t' you

up t' you, up t' you,,


boom boom she boom,, sliide

 

interesting points cherea

so like...reject them in a way they haven't been rejected before? make them vie for your attention?

i feel like you have to have something else on your side for that to work - usually money or fame works

i honestly don't have a problem getting money and being able to do that as a side effect.

 

OP, totally know what you mean. Not always the case, but most often is.

 

Dude, it was never that way for me. I still sucked at getting chicks, but it wasn't cause of games.

It all depends on who you're dealing with. What crowds you roll in. Now, what I do have to admit is there are probably some cities and areas that are worse than others. Places like LA, Miami, would probably impossible to find chill chicks in.

 

You seem to be thinking 'work', like, getting pussy. I don`t think that`s Tupac`s message.

 

touche

 

Here is the true paradox:

Men expect women not to play games yet men cannot approach a woman without approaching her as a vagina with boobs.

Men CREATE the game right there, in the approach.

Did you fellas ever think that the reason women know they can use their pussy as a bargaining tool is because generally that is exactly what a man is after when he approaches a woman?

I thought about this thread last night when some guy commented on the weather while passing me outside of the grocery store. I started to flash him a smile and make a comment back when I noticed he was actually talking to my boobs. I ignored him and hurried inside instead.

He probably went home and told his friends about the entitled bitch he tried to hit on at the grocery store.

 

because men know that if they approach a woman as a human being then she will permanently revoke any potential access to the vagina and boobs, whereas if they approach her as a vagina with boobs they still have potential access to both the person and the genitals.

 

Maybe it's better not to talk to women about the weather, when you really want to gawk at their boobz,,

 

This is HIGHLY untrue. Maybe not for the men you associate with, but definately not most men.

 

i think it is pretty clear that each poster is going to have a different viewpoint - i think most likely due to different circles

mellai has a point, but i don't think 'the game' is created because guys approach women hoping to get laid. women often approach men in hopes to get laid, too, but that doesn't make 'the game' disappear. in fact, that's how some women play 'the game', instead of waiting for guys to come to them, they go to the guys and then start their charades once the focus is on them. we call these girls attention whores.

 

actually, I was speaking more in generalities based on what a lot of guys have said in this very thread. I don't act like the women described in the OP so I don't get approached by the men described in my post.

I would say that it would hold true for any guy that agrees with the original post.