Psychologists/ counslers fix themselves not you

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  1. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    People seem to put a lot of stock and trust into the profession. But why do you think a person is drawn to this field? It's likely they deal with the same issues that bring you to them. They are also bothered by them and get self confidence on these issues by talking to you. How can I be in trouble when I fix trouble? That means I am in control. For example if you go to AA good chance the person with authority over you will say he was once where you where. Some see that as a good guide I see it as someone not prepared to lead. Someone who uses me.

    To this day a guy who did copious amounts of coke who thought all women wish they had a dick and men want to fuck their mom is the godfather. Does that seem odd to anyone else? I mean I don't want to fuck my mom and the few psychologists I dealt with all wanted to go those classic places. It turned me off from dealing with them.

    Also I realized all they do is mirror you. It's like what you get from a friend without paying. How does that make you feel? Do you think she meant that? Like there is no feedback and even they will admit the goal is for me to do it right?
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Freud was right about the ego/id part thought.

    System 1, System 2 its referred to in some parts now. Conscious part of the brain you have to force to do tasks. Subconscious part that does the bulk of the work, and only takes over some stuff the conscious part did after a certain amount of repititions, it cant think for itself, problem solving part of your brain is in the conscious part.

    The short version: Breaking any habit is about repitition.

    And he was also right about you wanting to fuck your mum. But he wasnt talking about your biological mum, he was talking about an amalgamation if all your care givers in early childhood. Your preschool teacher, babysitters, aunts, some chic next door you dont even remember maybe, and yes your mum.

    You grow up have a certain type of chic you always think is hotter when other guys dont. Thats going to come from either early childhood, whichever chic you had the biggest thing for when you first hit puberty, or the first chic you banged, or all three.

    But how mant guys do you see thats with a chic thats a little too similar to his mom, he doesnt see it, but everyone else does
     
  3. guerillabedlam

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    I had a Psychology Professor say that the 3 reasons why people are drawn to the field are:

    1) Want to help others
    2) Want to get involved in research
    3) Want to learn about themselves

    So I don't think you are way off base but I suspect most Psychology PhD's go through MUCH more rigorous study than an AA guide.

    First off, let me state I'm not suggesting I ascribe to all of Freud's psychoanalysis but I think you misunderstand the gist of the Oedipus Complex...

    The "men want to fuck their mom" thing is an unconscious phenomena in Freudian psychoanalysis, meaning you wouldn't explicitly think it. Furthermore, it's typically associated with a stage in child development, so this is often resolved by finding girls and women that share similar qualities to the mom.


    A lot of people, even in academia, dismiss Freud's ideas and while some of his methods certainly deserve to be scrutinized, I really think, with the way porn is essentially the centerpiece of the internet and things like fetish culture, that some of his ideas were quite ahead of their time and some of it could still be quite applicable today.
     
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  4. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    well it does pay well.

    i have a bachelor's in psychology and i only ever had one professor who actually took freud seriously.
     
  5. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    I guess you need to shop around a bit. Even they say that. You need to find the one that you feel comfortable with. All my experiences were from my parents forcing me to go over smoking weed. The one I liked best they would not pay for since she told them she did not think I had any real issues other than the legal risk of using weed but the weed itself was not at problem levels. They wanted to hear weed is the cause of everything.
     
  6. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    yeah, if they're specifically looking for someone with outdated views on drug experimentation, it makes sense that that person might have outdated views on other things.
     
  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I can't imagine a psychologist, psychiatrist, mental health therapist, is a very easy job. They sit in a room and listen to the woes of their patient. Several of them. Stories of turmoil, struggle, depression, fear, dark secrets, and trauma. Day after day.

    In my experience being the client of such professionals, I feel that the ones who "specialize" in general mental health issues are basically useless in the short and long run. Very often they don't know what the hell they are talking about, are trying to put their clients on psychotropic drugs they don't need. Because they sometimes receive kick-backs from the drug companies. The more pills they prescribe, the more money the therapist makes.

    Very often I've felt worse after a psychologist appointment, than I did before the appointment started. Sometimes I think this is done by design. So the therapist can make you feel worse in the beginning, and make you keep coming back.

    If anyone reading this has any personal or mental health struggles. I'd advise against a therapist, and instead seek a life coach. There are tons of life coaches out there who you can meet via Skype from all over the world. Many of whom specialize in certain lifestyle struggles that are better tailored for your individual needs. I found an excellent life coach by doing a few duck-duck-go searches, and seeing the Youtube videos she made. I love her very much and she's helped me come a long way. Compared to her, all my other professional therapists and doctors were a waste of time and money.
     
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  8. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    half right, half wrong. only you can fix yourself, your mind that is. what mental health care professionals can do, is help you find what it takes to do so.

    every psych student i've ever met, which of course doesn't mean there can't be exceptions, was motivate by having mental challenges of their own.
    so i have to agree with that part of it. but to conclude that they can perform no useful service, does not logically follow.
     
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  9. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    I work in the field and I must agree with the old adage that you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.
     

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