psychological effects

i have that same static in my head, though i haven't done any acid yet. dxm has been my drug of choice, along with shrooms and weed.
but ya know what? i wouldn't trade that static for the world. i have learned so much about myself and the world around me, i couldn't live without knowing!
just take it slow, take a break, because that static isn't ALL static! concentrate, meditate, just let it all flow. eventually you will hear what you strain over in your head.
i hope all turns out well for you!

 

^....yeah thats never happened to me

Thats a classic example of how LSD just doesn't mesh with the psychological wiring of certain individuals. The only bad trip I've ever had was due to a horrible and rather violent setting. In your case, that is exactly the type of irrational thinking that sputters trips into unresolvable desolution and chaos. One of the keys to having a GOOD LSD experience is letting everything flow. Let the LSD use you as a medium to express itself and you will gain insight that way. Don't try to back track and figure everything out as if the whole trip is an equation to be calculated whilst under the influence of the drug because your mind cannot function on a plane of normality...like you said, reality disappears, and so does all ability to utilize rational thought...

In a nutshell, you have to let it flow. Letting it flow is the number one statement i use to pull people out of bummers. No matter what crazy, outlandish, rediculous, or even frightening thoughts you see soaring across your psyche...just roll with it, dont second guess it. That type of shit only happens during the peak, then once the peak has passed, the gentle euphoria sets in and you can really lay back and enjoy the experience and whats going on around you....I.E.: chillin with your boys, listening to music, visual eye candy, jokes, movies...all the shit that really makes acid tripping enjoyable. Everyone goes through that breif state of psychosis, you just gotta stay on top of it.

 

The only problem with that statment is, even before i started using LSD heavily, i had the visual disturbances relatively bad from extreme mdma use and mushroom use (on a smaller scale then MDMA), i had used acid but not
(Ab)used. I posted about it regularly now i think about it as it got worse and worse. But what i have now isnt your happy go lucky minor tracer/static that adds flair to my everyday existence. Its distinctive to an LSD trip. I can tell its from acid because i constantly feel like ive either just eaten a couple tabs or like ive been up all night tripping and am currently spun out of my skull. If you havent done acid you wouldnt know the type of "static" im refering to, but i can garuntee if you did know...you wouldn't have the same outlook on it as you do now...it fucking sucks

 

HAve you cut down on consumption and its still there?

The only two times I had it I felt emotionally under stress and although weirded out etc I actually quite enjoyed them and laugh about them now.

I imagine getting it regularly would be as annoying as tinnitus (that ringing in the ear thing)

 

I already PMed Theodor Scott, but I just want to say that if acid has psychologically fucked any of you, I have been there... I have been to the depths of insanity, the depths of this nihilistic/existential crisis hell that Theodor Scott so well describes here. I want to say that I can help. I have been to the depths of hell and returned, and I now enjoy life and see it for all its beauty again. It is a tricky thing to come back from a total mindfuck, but it is possible, and I would love to talk to anyone who is having these sorts of problems. I don't mean to come off as all high and mighty, but I only tell the truth when I say I can help you and make you feel happiness again Please PM me or post here if you would like to talk about any issues you are having.

Edit: PsychMyke, I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure you're going to have to lay off acid, and maybe also weed and pretty much all other drugs, for quite a while, like 6 months or maybe much more, for all of your symptoms to go away. I've never had anything close to the symptoms you've described, but I've had HPPD far milder than yours and it's taken quite a while to full improve. I hate to be the bear bad news, but I think you should plan to take several months off and go from there if you really want to get better. Now that's just me and my opinion - I repect both your opinion and those of others on the board - but, judging from my experience with HPPD, it sounds like you are going to need a really solid break if you ever want to get "back to normal" as much as that is possible after you've tripped, even once hahahaha

 

So fucking true. It took me around 9 months to fully recover from my first serious acid mindfuck, and I had another fairly recently too.

The absolute failsafe key, that is guarenteed to sort you out, is to lay off the drugs, and look after yourself and your body. You don't need to take psychedelics to know that tbh, but hopefully it helps to hear that advice from people who have been through it, and come out the other side

 

... you are seeing fucked up visions because you are not being positive!

is it really that difficult for people to understand what it is that i am trying to say?

 

when i was going through that really rough time i stopped doing acid for just over a year before getting back into it. then i was smart and only tripped once every couple of weeks at most. i think that once a month (every two weeks max) would be safe. sometimes i go six months without a trip =-) ...

i would suggest giving yourself a good long break. only you will know how long that should be. the break will be good for you.

thats all i have time to write at this time. i will try to get on here later.

 

3xi... you realize that there is an objective way in which eyes are supposed to function, right? When I see all sorts of visual snow and trails which interfere with my ability to read, discern faces, etc., especially at long distances, this is a problem. It's not a matter of just putting a positive spin on it when my senses have been damaged. How does one put a positive spin on tinnitus? I really don't think that it is reasonable to do so. I know acid teaches us that it's all a matter of perception, but having damaged vision from acid is no different than having a damaged liver from alcohol abuse or damaged nasal lining form coke abuse. If your eyes/vision are functioning poorly due to acid use, it's objectively bad, period, from a health standpoint. Sure maybe there is a lesson to be learned from it just as there is a lesson to be learned from a drunk driver losing his leg in an accident, but it's still not a good thing in itself.

 

Its not like that though. Even when i am in a positive mood...Its like major visual disturbances. When i close my eyes, it looks like thousands of tiny firecrackers going off without noise. And i constantly feel like my brain is fryed...not metaphorically, literally fryed, deep fryed. I feel fizzled...there is so much more to it then just that, insane tracers, i have bad sleep paralysis and when i reach that state i have full blown flashbacks that feel like a mixture of an acid trip and a khole. Sometimes i can see the psychedelic vinework present while im tripping hard even while im awake, its just not as distinct as when the drug is in me. It isn't some thing thats "all in my head" that im only experiencing because im at a down point in my life.

 

i am glad this thread came about. it is making me and im sure alot of others more aware of some of the negative side effects to lsd. whether from being abused or whatever.

 

PsychMyke, trust me and 3xi, it IS something that goes away if you stop using drugs for LONG periods of time. All drugs.

Mental wounds heal just like physical ones, it just takes longer, and is very dependent on your physical actions, your life choices, and your mindset. Acid didn't "break" anything as such, you're just in a bit of a state mentally, and it WILL go away.

Think of a physical analogy to these symptoms. If you break your leg, it will heal over time. If you break your perception of reality, it too will heal over time. A broken leg will never heal if you keep resnapping it though. Give it time.

btw that's probably why acid can bring out underlying mental issues. If your brain is naturally susceptible to a mental disease (like schizophrenia), then LSD can cause irreperable mental damage, but that is completely different to what you're experiencing. It will get better, seriously.

 

very true, i think... but as the caterpillar said to alice "YOU! who are YOU?" perhaps the ultimate question?

 

poor guy!

believe it or not your reality is in your own hands. these dark thoughts are not out of your control. i know that can be difficult to understand when it seems like it is completely out of your control. but trust me - you have to get in control of your thoughts.

why dont you focus on love and the beauty in life - try being thankful for the life you have instead of feeling like you are in some sort of hell. i am sure if you can find a more positive outlook that you will experience a much more pleasent life.

 

i hear ya, i think you just need to come down and by the sounds of it that will be quite some time.

i dont like labels as they tend to make people think that they are damaged. i wouldnt say you have HPPD, i would say that you took way too much in a short period of time and you need some time to come down. i am not trying to say that HPPD doesnt exist as many of you have pointed out the symptoms are obviously a problem. what i mean to say is that when you label it with HPPD you dont really solve anything.

i guess i just dont like labels. even when it comes to addiction - i would say NO you are not addicted - it is your choice and it has been all along. most people would disagree and say i am full of shit cuz there are so many drugs that are considered addictive. i have tried most drugs and i still say that the word addiction in itself is too dangerous in that it takes the blame off the user and puts it on the drug. same goes for HPPD in some strange way - in my brain at least. but for now lets just say i agree with you and that your "HPPD" will go away with time and that if you are to remain positive you will find the next year much easier. - dont be worried, just learn your lesson,, take a break and when you go back to tripping again - be smart and space out your trips.

and just for the record... it very well could be 'just in your head'... there really is no way to know for sure. you could be experiencing these visual distortions only because you for some strange reason 'want to'... i wouldnt know.

just relax - try meditation... that could be a good thing for you to get into while you stay away from the drugs... ( i wouldnt stop smoking weed unless you find it makes matters worse)

 

There isn't any support in the medical studies that LSD causes any kind of brain damage (or in the eyes), in the physical sense. Personally when I'm on LSD and for period of time after, my visual accuity is better and sharper (and I don't normally have perfect vision) also with increased color perception and distinction. I do a lot of photography and related visual arts (semi-professionally) so my eyes are important to me and very aware of how they are functioning. I am sorry to hear of your troubles, I don't know what to tell you but I don't think there is anything physically wrong with yours eyes caused by LSD. From a medical p.o.v., I don't even think its possible. Its completely different then alcohol and liver problems. Alcohol is toxic, your liver filters it, eventually it damages it. Its fairly common that people drop liquid L into their eyes, if it was physically damaging to the optic nerve, tissues or eyeball, those people would be blind by now.


To use the analogy of computers, I don't think psychology is hard wired (or hardware), it is the software, it can be rewritten, but you are also the programer, if you want to be.

 

dd3stp233 - my vision is worse than it was before I took acid, and the same is true for dozens of people on this forum... no word tricks are going to take away the fact that acid damaged my vision. If you are calling all of us liars, then that's one thing, but trust me, it is real. It has nothing to do with toxicity, it has to do with the fact that the visual pathways in my brain have been damaged to the point where they can't process information as efficiently as they once could. It is objective damage that I can see with my own eyes, literally, right now as I type this post. So many of you guys have this crazy notion that LSD is completely harmless and there is no way it could actually hurt someone without it being "all in their head" but believe me this isn't the case. HPPD is real and very obvious and there's no choice or attitude that is responsible for it, other than the choice of having taken L. I'm not saying it's permanent, but it's there.

 

im definatly not tripping for at least a year...my mind has been made up. I thank all of you for your help and words of wisdom.

 

mind - body - soul

they are all connected

whatever symptoms or ailments that you feel or experience in the physical are related to a root cause. address the problem in your mind and you heal whatever ails you physically.

also, time heals all wounds. give it time and avoid whatever caused the problem in the first place - rest and heal.


with the cases described in this thread. the problem was not caused by LSD. it was caused by LSD over use and/or a bad set and setting. that is the always the case with LSD. if you have any bad experience with LSD, whether it be during or after a trip, it is not the acids fault it is your own.

 

Amen.

I take full responsibility. I still hold LSD in very high regards, you'll never hear me knock LSD or say it is bad in anyway...it's beautiful. Just be catious and dont over do it.