ummmm.... i can relate, although i only do uppers.... if you really really wanna do it in a relationship, first of it sucks to hide it, and as a girl, i love when my partner deals with the people who get it.... i would hate, HATE to get drugs on my own...
i agree 100% yet when i am asked sometimes "and what shall i do today" i am now and then in the mood for a chemically induced psychedelic experience. It's just one hell of a way to spend an evening, you know? All within moderation and done safely.
i have a feeling the purchase of uppers is much different than the purchase of psychs, more specifically differences in the types of people you are dealing with...not necessarily but in many situations I'd think this might be the case...
Thanks for the good vibes Amazing because that Tool song was the epitome of my feelings on this topic for a while... hold on, stay inside.. this holy reality I guess there's definitely a lot I can share about my perspective as a female thinker, which is probably why I was drawn to this forum to begin with... so if I may hop back on my train of thought.. I'll start by saying that my perspective comes from being a girl who's pretty much only friends with guys, the kind who've been playing with their minds forever, like me... I haven't really liked girls since high school, so especially after acid, it was just even more confirmed that there's not that many girls out there that are honest (especially honest with themselves) or deep thinkers. And if they're not honest, my connection with them hits a systematic, shallow wall. If you're deep in, the only people who understand you are swimming beside you. So what can we do? Do we shun all people who aren't "wise" like us? Of course not.. The relationships and interactions we have are of all sorts of different types, with different people. My one best (girl) friend has been my best friend since we were 10, but with her, it's been established that there's a "realm" I'm in that we can't quite discuss together. She knows there are certain, very important things, that she will never understand. So we stick to things we can share.. sometimes it's hard but it's grounding, it makes me stop thinking of myself in terms of "pre-acid" and "post-acid".. reminding me of the "me" that is still very much the same. All of the sorts of different friends we have, satisfy the variety of needs we have. So I guess you'd have to decide for yourselves what you think a relationship is. For me, I think the only way I could find myself in a meaningful relationship is if it blossomed from a deep, spiritual friendship - we would both trip hard about how in-tune we are to each other, about how perfectly our paths came to flow together, about how much we learn from each other. And of course, we would drop acid, have sex, and make music (in varying combinations). So I can definitely agree that there is a lacking proportion of in-tune girls out there... but I am definitely not complaining
Hahaha, You must focus, grasshopper! It ain't gonna be a quicky! Srysly, I've never had superficial sex while tripping.(mostly while drunk!) Not sure it would work... Only a woman I love and care about can command my attention long enough to fuck on acid. ZW
I never have a problem getting it up while tripping, just getting off. When I drank some cactus juice this past summer I went at it with the little woman for a looong time and she went at me for a looong time. I finally said I give up after like 3 hours of playing. At least she had a big grin for a day or so.
It was all good, although my wee willie winky was a bit sore for a day. Maybe that nice Dr. in the pic would be able to help me out with that :drool5:
None taken. Fucking while tripping would be great.. but it would also be great just to have anyone around here that really liked to trip. And it would be even better if it was a girl. The only people I know who trip don't really like to go too deep..
I Know what your getting at, and I feel for you. You need people on your depth. We talk about shit in a certain way with our male friends, but tripping with a female friend, the energy takes on new dimensions. You're in a better position to explore more complex emotional stuff than you'd care to talk about with yer "dawg's" if you know what I mean... When I was in high school there were a lot of girls I knew that tripped, and a good portion of them were into deep shit ( probably smarter than most of us guys, too!) The first time I tripped alone with a girl (17) blew my mind. I didn't know her at all, we had met only days previous. We talked all night about everything under the sun , the most minute details of our lives and feelings. We clicked in so many indescribable ways....and then we made love for HOURS... The result was we became practically inseparable life partners and lovers...Those were five of the sweetest years of my life... My ambitions as a musician eventually fucked that up. Good luck Y'all :cheers2: ZW
man i really can't believe we are sitting here on a psychedelic forum talking about how some people aren't psychedelic enough. how we wish that there was someone that we could be on the same level with. seems quite contradictory to the entire essence of the psychedelic experience to me. psychedelics are about love, and acceptance. the divine connection that we all share. a less 'enlightened' person may not be on the same level as you, or understand what you understand, but their ignorance is still a beautiful part of the whole. you can't reject someone based on that. they are the same as you -- and when you reject them, you are only rejecting yourself. if you think that you can't connect with someone that isn't on your level then your obviously missing a very important part of what the psychedelic experience is about. we are all connected, and if you can't find that with any person then it is only yourself that is not connected. i would have thought that of all people, the spiritual seekers here would be able to realise that. we are here to lift eachother up, to suffer for eachother. "Life will flash before my eyes So scattered and lost I want to touch the other side And no one thinks they are to blame Why can't we see That when we bleed we bleed the same" it's hard to articulate what i'm trying to say...
No ones rejecting anyone, Desos Just saying it's nice to have people around you, psychedelic or not, who are deep in a way that allows you to relate to them things you have experienced (like psychedelics). You just a pup anyhow, so why you gettin all preachy an shit? You got give up the flying saucers baby! hhahahaha ZW
lol. man i shouldn't have taken that tenstrip this morning, jesus warned me not to... :biggrinjester: it's ok though, i'll just eat more... that will fix everything!
Thats why I like you Desos, you can take a poke :boxing_smiley: and give it back and still maintain a sense of humor about it all.:tongue: :cheers2:
Anyway on topic, my wife did a little partying when younger, mostly coke, but no psychedelics like me. Now she doesn't smoke, drink, smoke weed or anything like that. Both her brothers were killed by drunk drivers a couple of years apart when they were 18 & 20, so I dont drink anymore out of respect for her. We've been together for 17+ years now and will have our 16th anniversary in Dec. She knows I smoke weed and dabble and is sorta OK with it, except when I lost a job offer due to a piss test, but thats understandable. But we work together as well as any couple. It really just depends on if you accept each other for who you are and don't try to force changes on your partner. It really comes down to acceptance and respect. I quit drinking out of respect for her feelings and she doesn't hassle me about weed out of acceptance. Thats how a relationship works. Simple yet hard at times.