Psychedelic Bump

man I really hope you report that A and B combo. did you enjoy the show as much as you thought or were you too distracted?

 

Awesome! Great description,from the little visuals I got from 2ct2 it seemed alot like mescaline visuals where objects and designs appear within the parameters of what you are looking at as opposed to distorting it, I call it flowering visuals. I equate this to the rearranging thing you are talking about although I'm sure your 2ct7's visuals were on another level. You have me sold on the visuals and glad it goes well with music. How's the head trip? Introspective? Emotional? Spiritual? Clear? Disorienting? All of the above?

 

to add to guerilla's questions, how would you compare 2ct7 to 2ce, if you've tried it

 

honestly, i was too close to egodeath...i danced WAY too hard to the first few dj's, and then just sat on the balcony and enjoyed the view for most of shpongle. by the end my back and knee were really hurting so i couldn't dance, but i had a fucking blast.

i was a little too out of it to socialize, and didn't have a trip buddy since my girlfriend had to drive, but i did have a really good time.

i started writing up a report, but have a lot of homework this weekend, but i'll probably have time to finish it up this week..depending on how much i try to explain the 4-meo-pcp at the end of the night...that was just fucking weird.

 

I've tried both and for me 2ct7 is way way more visual than 2ce. Also when I take 2ce, it makes me think too much, too much of a mind fuck. 2ct7 is awesome though, didn't make me think so much. Also 99% of the times I have taken 2ce it made me throw up and I never threw up the 5 times I took 2ct7. The body load was also a little heavy on 2ce and with 2ct7 its more euphoric.

 

what doses of each did you take? thanks for the info.
the recommended dosage for -t7 seems to vary a lot more than for -e

kinda makes 2ct7 sound intriguing to me, for pretty much the first time. i've always thought to steer clear of it, b/c of the deaths attributed to ridiculous nasal doses/mixing with other drugs (neither of which i'd do)

 

i've always been scared of 2c-t-7 because of the bodyload...though a personal friend took it and he said it was literally THE strongest visuals he's ever gotten.

 

Damn.. aside from full on solid hallucinations/delirium, I can't imagine anything more visual than a 2c-e peak with a little ganj. This was definitely not the case with my t-7 experience.

Am I the only person that loves the 2c-e body load? I think it just intensifies the trip... Also, something I've noticed is that the 2c's always used to give me nausea and gastro upset when I first started taking them years ago at 20mg and less.. I would say I puked on the comeup every 1 out of 4 trips. These days, my average dose is above 35mg and I simply get mild to moderate gas and sometimes a bit of the runs, especially the next day (sorry), but no nausea or real stomach upset to speak of. Interesting..

Oh yeah - not really a psych but bump for 11mg JWH-018 oral and 7mg smoked earlier today.

 

^ yah ive yet to heave on any rcs(knocks on wood). Ive really only puked on mushrooms once and alcohol more times than I can remember or care to remember. I also puked on weed brownies once but I attribute just as much of that to the brownies as the weed, as I don't fair well with rich chocolate.

Time to prepare some 4 Meo PCP.

 

^^^u said at first you didn't like that stuff

 

lol flowering visuals thats a funny term for it but a good one. There wasn't really a head trip with 2ct7 at all. the visuals are a lot like mescaline just on another level but until the visuals subsided unlike mescaline it didn't really inspire deep thought, make me paranoid, spiritual more social or emotional. I was honestly too overwhelmed by the visuals to even think about anything other than what I was seeing.

I have some E on the way but haven't tried it yet so I can't compare the two. I am kinda excited about it now that I've really experienced t7 though. I have read so many threads about it so I know its not a let down like some seem to think 2ct-x's are without taking proper dosage(me included until this weekend).


Is 2c-e more visual than DMT? t7 was about on par with it but they are very different visuals so hard to compare imo. now that I was dancing with at a +3 dancing with 4 I wanna up the dose and take it all the way with t7 before I try anything else.

 

lol ya that was a nice finishing touch to a long evening. I've been reading a lot of mixed reports about the 4meoPcP but yours was definately one of the most positive ones I've seen. lol maybe its because you smoked some 5meo to top it off as well? getting lost in outerspace for a few hours trying to find yourself eh? sound like a good end to a long night, but those are the most personally constructive trips imo though.

I'm glad you enjoyed the the show overall. not having a trip buddy sucks out in public too. I can imagine the depth of thought that combination could bring forth.

 

Fuck yes .
I love that shit.

 

2cp + DOI this weekend

 

In my experience T7>P.
Just throwin it out there.

 

holy fuck.

 

it wasn't all that "positive"...it was kind of rough actually. but intriguing for every reason that made it so "rough". aside from the nasal trauma.

i dosed a friend with 109mg yesterday, and he was fine until he took a bongload, then he could barely talk. :coffee: said he really enjoyed himself though

 

If you aren't afraid of the needle inject the shit man, it's far better than K but you are going to be retarded for 2 days.

 

yea...i have SHITTY veins though...but LUCKILY a friend who's taking classes on it, so i think that'll have to be my next experiment.

but holy shit, a miss with that stuff would HURT.

 

I have not done iv injection and probably to much of a pussy too with some new rc. I've just done im injection. it's not hard at all you just go right below where your shoulder slopes down your arm. 4 meo pcp is not terribly water soluble though so I've had to put it in a little baking cup and heat it from beneath to get all the little white chunks out which would not be good going into your arm. It ends up looking like oily water, like you sometimes see behind people's parked cars. Just suck that back up in the plunger, alcohol on a swab, clean the injection site then just put the needle in quickly but not forcefully. Push down on the plunger and wah la, it doesn't hurt at all, just don't push the plunger down to quickly or it will hurt, but that will be from the pressure not the actual drug. Takes about 10 minutes to take effect i would say close to 25 to peak on this stuff which is strange and different than K.

I haven't measure precisely on a scale but I know it's been close to 100 mgs for sure so don't be afraid to jump right in a bit. I have not felt even a slight hint of nausea from it so you can even be bolder than I and push past the 100 mg mark if you wish. The first time I did it was unbelievable, yesterday was good as well not quite as amazing though but i still thorougly enjoyed myself. THere seems to be a large tolerance with this one though, even more so than K imo and brief experience. THe longer lasting effects maybe make it harder to attain that same level of intensity on a regular basis perhaps.