Psychedelic Bump XXIII

Yeah that is true. But there are still some bad apples. Same rules apply, bunk drugs are sold and you have to be careful what you take. But there are many people who are open and welcoming. But with Bassnecter and Infected Mushroom there will still be the EDM crowd. String Cheese Incident and Umprhys Megee will definitely bring the hippies though.

From experience I will tell you rule one don't party too hard before setting the tent up and make friends with your neighbors.

 

QFT.. set up first thing. I'd also recommend getting there as early as possible.. leaves you with more options for finding a good camping spot. Not sure what the weathers like over there, but if it's hot, it's nice to find a spot that's shady in the morning. They're usually snapped up pretty quickly, but they just give you a liiiittle bit more recovery time before your tent becomes an oven

Also, a place near a landmark is always good. Finding your camp can be a bit of a mission when you're tripping beans

 

both posts above are great advice. if you don't go too hard (like me), you might even wait til saturday/night to dose anything. i (sometimes) like to spend friday night getting my bearings and feeling the place out.

making friends with your neighbors is key! it's not as hard as making friends in the "real world," people are generally much more outgoing at things like that.

take more water than you think you need. like...twice as much, even if you leave some in the car. bring rolling papers, and ketchup. little things like that are a great icebreaker when the dude camping next to you is cooking hot dogs (eww, i don't like them, but you get the point), or is trying to roll a joint but can't find his papers.

i just realized you didn't really ask for advice, but there it is

 

Yoga retreat was a bust. I'm gonna bum my ass all over the Lower-48 and couch surf with friends instead. In communications with one friend it seems that my first roll (MDMA) and my first DMT trip may possibly be in my future.

Anybody ever combined these two? (I mean I've never done either so I would try them separately first...maybe...)

 

Thanks for the advice! If I go it'd be with a lot of veterans so that will be very helpful.

On a separate note, for those who have taken 4-aces before, do you feel like it is very easy on the body? If so, is there another substance that seems to be as forgiving as aces?

 

Bummer about your retreat...

I've combined MDMA and DMT once, I found it interesting but I wouldn't say they really synergize. The MDMA signature seemed to mostly direct the trip to my surprise, with the intensity being ratcheted up by the DMT. It was more of a tactile trip from what I recall rather than the otherworldly visual explosion I get from DMT alone. I felt like my body/mind was rolling up under and around itself like a treadmill or something, fairly quirky and disorienting. It was intense and strange but lacked a sense of the mystical and transcendent sensations I've experienced on other combos such as of MDMA + Salvia.

Some reports of the MDMA + DMT combo have been more glowing than mine, so perhaps you may enjoy it more, like I mentioned I only explored it once. Regardless I recommend to explore them on their own initially.

 

Its supposed to be amazing. Just do the DMT on the MDMA peak!!
dont smoke dmt on the comedown!! the only negative dmt experience I have ever heard of was on the MDMA comedown. (because of the depleted serotonin levels of the brain)
its gonna be an extremely positive experience... dropping MDMA for the first time is the most amazing thing ever!!
also smoking dmt will be easy on the roll. No discomfort when holding it down.

 

Guerilla is right. The first MDMA experience is amazing. Even though your subsequent uses will still be special nothing will equal the first time. So don't be in a hurry to do too many things in one night.

 

first time I did MDMA I was floored, lying on the couch, feeling nothing but intense pleasure. imagine smoking a high dose of DMT on that. Like 50mg+ That would be amazing. totally out of this world and beautiful.

 

The spectrum of effects I find which each excels at are at odds... MDMA tends to make you want to open up, bond, absorb music, dance, walk around. It's an experience that most people generally want to share with others. On that initial MDMA experience, I was completely content with the people I was with and during the peak I didn't feel it needed to be accentuated in any way.

DMT is a very personal experience, it's more about travelling to the depths of your own mind, exploring different dimensions, traversing abstract unknown waters. The DMT trip is best explored in a calm, low key setting, to the outside observer you pretty much look asleep on full dose DMT. I felt on my first DMT breakthrough that was certainly enough :rofl:. The experience is so incredibly direct, intense and intricate in it's visuals, it's fractal perfection.

 

guerillabedlam:

you were rolling a few days ago too.. right? 250 mg ...like me... Do you ever get approached by strangers in the rave, trying to buy drugs from you?
people were waving wads of cash in-front of me all night.. I just tell em to get lost, I got nothing. buuut...
.Do we look really fucked up when on E? I always thought I look normal...
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I felt soo good and the movement was so easy..I felt like I was barely moving... but when I talked to people they told me they didn't see anyone hardstyle dance like me before... I was jumping up and down, flying all night...

I had a very strange experience, I remember.. a woman was standing behind me... reaching out..towards me with her hand.. while I was dancing... she was saying to her friends: "he is trippin on something... look at him move" Two people were holding her back so she couldn't touch me with her hand... but I noticed her.

I spent most of the night dancing and just walking up and down all night hugging and kissing people. drinking orange juice.
I ended up going up to the apartment of an English girl who was telling me stories about her crazy 2c-b trip.. she kept rollin spliffs, got me soo stoned

maaaan. one of the most amazing nights of my life.

 

Happy Sunday ya'll!

just smoked the bong w/ some friends...feeling like a quite :sunny:

 

Sounds like a wonderful night...

I did dose 250 mgs at the rave and danced to hardstyle too.


Nobody really approached me for drugs the other night but they have before. I don't usually have a smile plastered on my face like some do when rolling and I'm probably not the most approachable guy, I'm not mean either, but unless I'm dancing, I don't think I really give off vibes that I'm rolling/tripping. I talk pretty coherently and rarely do I puddle out on the couches or ground, so sometimes when people talk to me for a bit they'll ask.

I know my eyes get really dilated when rolling, like this girl looking in my eyes working a booth told me to relax and at that point I felt pretty relaxed, she gave me some flirty winks and blew me a kiss too, so maybe that was a sign she knew I was turned on. I was wearing glow in the dark glasses most the night, I usually don't wear much gimmicky stuff like that to raves but I found them in my car on the way there so I thought why not... They actually provided some interesting effects on trails.
I usually need gum as well at that dose, to prevent teeth grinding. So I'm sure smacking away on the gum is likely a sign that I'm on something.

I chilled with a few people the first half of the night, mainly this girl who was pretty quiet and seemed like she was pretty spaced out, maybe flipping or something. The 2nd half of the night after the aforementioned ruckus took place I was talking about on the previous page, I pretty much was connecting with the music.

 

i find it easy on the body in that it doesn't make my stomach feel tied in knots like 2ce or 2cb does...it doesn't tend to give me a headache, and it only has given me slight nausea on some doses, not others.

but it's a pretty vibrational, shakey, shivery kinda trip..maybe more-so on the come-up.

i find miprocin to be much for forgiving than 4aces. especially psychologically. 4aces has left me feeling scatterbrained.

4aces (on high does) had me shaking and pretty much plastered to the couch. overall, it usually makes me feel a bit sedated as far as tripping goes, and i yawn a LOT.
miprocin has a very high every come up where sometimes i feel like i could manifest some energy in my hands like some dragon ball z shit or something. kinda nervous energy that i don't know what to do with. that has always faded for me as the trip sets in, but i do find sometimes some excess energy felt in my legs on miprocin, possibly leftover stimulation after the bulk of the trip is over. but it's a very easy comedown from miprocin for me, almost no after effects.

 

Oh yeah sounds real normal I bet you didn't seem high at all.

Does MDMA+weed go well?

 

I'll preface my response by saying I don't really smoke much weed, I don't care for smoking weed on the peak of MDMA, however I don't care for mixing weed with LSD either and I know some enjoy that so that's kind of where I'm coming from.

I find on the MDMA peak, weed can kind of cloud my headspace and sort of restrain my energy. However on the MDMA comedown, weed can be delightful, it can kind of mask the comedown, bring back the MDMA a bit and take the experience into an interesting direction.

 

I think MDMA and weed go well. But I am a big stoner so I think weed goes with anything. Pretty much any drug I do ends up with some smoke mixed in. But at the end of the MDMA high smoking can bring it back a bit. But my first time on MDMA I found myself so high already I did not even feel the weed. It's the only time I have ever felt that way were I just could not be any higher if I tried.

 

I like the weed on the comedown.

 

This...same with LSD. Not on the peak tho, it takes away some of the clarity.

 

Yeah I won't ever smoke weed on the peak of any psych. Almost always the comedown though!

And pork, like you mentioned, I find miprocin to be the nicest on the body that I have tried. I would still like to try it more to confirm.
I was thinking in my past experiences aces have been really nice to the body as well but you are bound to get some tremors but nothing too extreme. The comeup is also very smooth. I'm thinking about buying a half g of some aces soon. It's still the most enjoyable psych I've taken.