Psychedelic Bump XXIII

honestly I find MDMA pretty asexual. MDMA love is like the love children experience. I mean you can appreciate someone's hotness I guess, but you more want to have a serious heart to heart than fuck them. You fuck when you wake up in the morning.

Taking viagra and messing with that... just seems kinda wrong. Plus it could kill you or shave a few years off your life. Definitely a bad idea.


In my experience; uppers give you a baby penis, and downder make you look like a pornstar.

Here's what I would do: Take MDMA with the person you're gonna fuck, and experience some serious emotional bondage. Then, when you start to come down, dose a bunch of opiates, benzos &/or muscle relaxers. This will make your comedown effortless and smooth, plus it will take you cleanly from the mood for emotional love to the mod for sexual love. Plus your dick won't look shockingly small.

idk but that's what I do. I never take mdma without some kratom, oxy, h, whatever. I also find carisoprodol, oxazepam, valium, etaqualone, etc. do get the job done. Opiates are just such great drugs for sex.

 

You mix opiates and MDMA? I met a guy once who swore the combo of heroin and MDMA was fantastic. But to me it seems like a bad combo.

 

seems weird that you say not to combine MDMA and viagra because it could shave years off you life....but then you recommend MDMA followed by heroin.

 

Bump for 17mg of MXE oral about 3 hours ago and 160mg of bk-MDMA about 2 hours ago.

I'm aware of the dangers of this combination but I'm not too terribly worried about it at this dose. I was going to do small doses of MXE throughout the day, but the Methylone wouldn't stop calling my name! So no more MXE for me for awhile. Feelin good though :sunny:

Considering a small amount of 4-HO-MIPT. Hmmmm

 

i think you should give miprocin a go!


a proper one.



by itself

 

I find sex on MDMA fantastic, divine in a sense. I've not used viagra in conjunction with MDMA but I'd suggest you try viagra on It's own first before combining them. I can't imagine it being too much more dangerous then combining MDMA + Caffiene but its probably not a combo to do frequently.

I'd say the focus of the MDMA experience isn't sexual but it can be extremely sexual, it seems to affect people differently. If you know anything about the attitude of rap and how they've embraced MDMA in the past few years, I think the idea of a bunch of asexual rappers up there rapping about MDMA is silly. EDM can be really erotic too.

 

I completely agree, but I haven't felt that the moment was right every time that I've considered trying it, except for when I'm already on something. Like "Oh, a little bit of miprocin would really perfect this experience". This is my first time using a chemical in combinations before trying it by itself that I can recall. That goes against how I usually research, but I have heard nothing but great things about it so I am comfortable doing so.

Every time I think of "4-HO-MIPT" in my head, the next thing to follow is almost always "porkstock". Not even joking!

I went ahead and dropped 12mg of Miprocin about 10 minutes ago. This is indeed my third time trying miprocin. The first time was when I was already on MXE and Etizolam. I completely underestimated it that time (plus etizolam makes me brave) and it tore me right out of this universe at 17mg.

The second time I was on MXE, I don't recall the dose, and I plugged 6mg each of 4-ACO-DMT and 4-HO-MIPT. This led to some very intricate CEVs and a very trippy hole. I didn't experience anything profound however.

This is my timeline for today:

Around 4:30PM - 18mg Methoxetamine Oral on a full stomach

5:30PM - Feeling the MXE a little bit, decide to switch gears and taken 160mg of Methylone

6:10PM - Peaking very lightly on the MXE, reaching my peak with the Methylone. I feel like it's not going to get me quite where I want to be. I take 25mg Methylone orally

8:30PM - Definitely coming down from the Methylone peak and I only feel very slight lingering effects from the MXE. Got home from a walk in the snow with my GF. The idea of dosing some miprocin has been bouncing around in my mind for a few hours. I take 75mg more Methylone.

8:55PM - Starting to feel the Methylone booster and I take 12mg Miprocin orally.

9:20PM - Just starting to feel first alerts from the miprocin :sunny:

I'm excited to see where this takes me! This is my first time combining an empathogen with a psychedelic, something I've been wanting to do for 4 years but have never had the chance to do.

 

okay well I guess shave years off your life would be a bit of an exaggeration, but like the vascular effects of the mix are supposed to be pretty bad.

I'm definitely not saying to mix them. I'm saying that taking downers, especially opiates at the end of an mdma trip is really enjoyable. I probably wouldn't take a strong opiate while on the up of an mdma trip (although I've tried low dose kratom and it was good) and I definitely wouldn't take a benzo on the up of an mdma trip, but at the end it is chill.

you transition from up euphoria to down euphoria if you take an oral opiate around the time that you start to come down. I don't do mdma very often, but when I do, I usually go do some sort of adventure for 5 or 6 hours, then I eat a whole bunch of kratom and chill out with some friends. It's a really smooth way of doing things.

 

I finally had my first real dose of mushrooms on Saturday. I took 2.2 grams and I must say it was quite lovely and definitely stronger than I expected. I was surprised that I was coming up after 15 minutes and after 20 I was ready to flop back on my bed and drop out. The physical aspects were fairly demanding. I had the desire to stand but my legs had no power. I also found it hard to catch my breath like I couldn't achieve a fully satisfying breath. My whole body felt kind of sickly. I am used to this though with most of the chems I've taken. It bothers me more these days though.

I liked finally being able to try a natural psychedelic. The visuals were definitely nice. They had a more organic feel to them but besides that it wasn't anything that stood out too much. I did love the amount of introspection I received. This is typical every time I dose but I'm glad to see how much mushies act as a big brother who's looking out for you. Definitely had a lot of laughs too.
I still have about 3 grams left I plan on saving for a while. Good stuff.

Also I'm thinking of a smallish dose of moxy for shpongle at the beginning of next month. It took me a while to think of what id want to take but moxy seems to hit the spot. Quick comeup and short peak. However I really don't enjoy the body effects but it should be manageable at 7mg or so. What do y'all think?

 

That sounds like a decent trip, I usually find myself laying/sitting down for about the first hour of my shroom trips. The ascent is kind of physically weird and stronger than many synthetics. It Sounds like the introspection and organic feel was good stuff.

I think at a concert, sometimes you can direct your body energy better. If 7 mgs is a small dose of Moxy for you, maybe go with ~10 mgs. Moxy took me on a headtrip when I saw some electronic music on it and those djs were nowhere near the talent of Shpongle.

 

Thanks for the responses guys. I think if I do take MDMA with the girl who is in my life, I will just explain that sex may not be possible during the trip but that other fun things will be.

Im actually more hoping to do it as "couple's Therapy"

 

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I just got my hands on a gram of White DMT. Very pure stuff. I think its Iv able. Should I give it a shot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_PiGSxAmnw"]Octave One - Black Water - YouTube

 

Yes. Smoke it.

 

Yup .. smoke it I shall. I did a quick research about Iv ing DMT.. I think Ill pass on that method.

 

To even consider IV'ing dmt, you better know whether you have dmt freebase or dmt fumarate. Most likely what you have is freebase, which isn't the form that is used for IV applications.

 

yeah I did my research. after the post ...I'm gonna smoke it and try to use it to kick this nasty cocaine addiction that I seem to have picked up.. (I have been partying hard)
on the sidenote:
if your friend offers you coke dont take it!! its really fuckin good shit! The guy keeps sorting me out with free shit... cuz we`re friends. lol fuck that shit!

What would you guys do if you were in my place? should I Tell him to fuck off and never talk to me again? I don't want that nasty habit.

I see him at work and he keeps giving me the baggie and tells me to do some lines. Am I fucked if I cant refuse?

 

IV dmt has given me some of the most intense experiences I've ever had. I simply could never get that far out into space smoking, IV dmt allows you to precisely administer a dose, and you can be sure that you are getting the complete dose with no chance of failure which can happen smoking when u simply get too fucked up and cannot finish smoking the dose.

I will give you some information that has been my experience. Me and a friend several years ago were experimenting with DMT, and we sought to try IV injection. We both knew that an acidic solution would be needed to protonate the DMT molecule to allow it into solution. So after trying various acidic solutions, various concentrations of dilute acetic acid it appeared to go into solution but failed to produce an experience.

My buddy decided to just use pure un diluted distilled white vinegar...this is what has to be done to get the freebase into solution IME! Along with a little heat. Diluted vinegar must not have worked because the dmt just melted into an oil which fell to the bottom and coated the bottom of the cooker. Trust me, it's crazy. Every time I do it I hear a noise reminiscent to turning on a CRT monitor and then poof...reality has been completely replaced with an alternate one, sometimes there are parallels in where objects are replaced with alternate versions or sometimes it's completely chaotic. Oh yea, it will make you cough after you inject it.

Idk what the ph of the final solution would be the freebase seems to be able to neutralize quite a bit of acid but it never burned or anything...but DO NOT miss this shot if u decide to do this (that should go without saying).

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdVVU8tBTQ"]Kings of Camouflage - YouTube
dmt experience reminds me of this..

 

gendorf, zoom out. what is all this doing. what are you doing. what's the point of expanding consciousness if all it leads to is ruin. what choices are you making, and how are those choices making you

 

haha, nice. i'm honored.

i've read a couple good things about combining these two (orally). apparently the 4aces makes the trip a little "deeper," and the miprocin make it more visual and fun.

i'd have to try 4aces by itself a couple more times before trying a combination. it's probably worth a try, for me personally, but usually i'd rather just take a higher dose of one psychedelic than combine them.

cool, man. hope you had a good one. 12 mg is the dose my brother took last time we tripped. he had a pretty light, but enjoyable trip i think. 14 mg has been plenty for two of my other friends...one even asked me if i weighed it right

what kind of dose do you think you would take if you ever take miprocin by itself?

glad to hear this. are you happy you didn't take a whole 3 grams (was it 3?) at first?

i do find mushrooms to be pretty physically demanding, and sort of inebriating compared to other psychedelics. i've felt sickly on mushrooms more than any other psychedelic. coupled with the imaginative thought that the mushrooms wanted me to lie down and die so they could grow on my corpse..

this isn't to say that mushrooms can't be wonderful too though.

the visuals do seem more organic. like more earthy tones in the color. and very rhythmic breathing of trees and stuff like that (i remember from one of my earliest trips...before i really became a frequent tripper). but how much of this difference is influenced from our expectations of eating a natural psychedelic i wonder?

shrooms are something else...

i could go for some. had a meeting today with my several advisers for my PhD work. showed them most of my data for my thesis, and they OKed me to start writing it. it's not a short process though. in about 4 or 5 months i should be able to defend my thesis and graduate..finally! don't have a clue what i'm doing next yet.
i guess that has nothing to do with mushrooms. except that i'm pretty stressed, and excited, about all of this...and i could maybe use a little 'break.'