Psychedelic Bump XXII

@ pop : You may want to consider rectal administration with 2ce and chems you find rough on the body . I've found rectal administration negates a lot of the physical issues, except the rapidness of the comeup May cause some nausea.

 

i haven't eaten mushrooms that many times, but i don't recall getting tremors on them ever.

45 mg 4-aco-dmt fumarate gave me the most intense tremors of anything. i've heard that miprocin can give tremors...but now that i think about it, i never got them very bad. but i never dosed over 25 mg of that one.

this latest LSD trip had me a little vibrational at one point. the shakiness from LSD is kinda like the little bit i might have gotten on miprocin - it seems to come from excess energy.

i'm pretty sure 2ce and 2cb have given me the shakes too, but i think it's more related to perceived temperature fluctuations. i shiver on 2ce because it makes me cold (and because i've spent a lot of time on it outside in the winter). 2cb also makes me pretty cold, maybe the worst body temp fluctuations of any psychedelic i've tried.

and those are all the psychedelics i have extensive experience with.

 

Pre bump for tripping tomorrow... Likely going with 40 mgs Iprocin and spending a portion of the trip listening to the new Shpongle album!

 

I'm gonna be tripping tomorrow too with hahaha04 and two other friends. hahaha04 and I will be dosing ~30-40mg of 2ce each, and our two friends will each dose ~15mg. We MIGHT have some molly too, which would be awesome. Should be a good day

 

it's a little late. bump for a trip, roll, and candyflip at allgood.

 

Bump for an AMAZING day of tripping on 2ce at the lake with three great people, including hahaha04. I'm still tripping a little, but definitely approaching baseline. Perfect day

 

Well to update on my MDMA experience. Snorting was great fun but the crash came far to quickly and I had forgotten just how miserable the mdma crash can be. I also learned there IS an urge to redose with MDMA (which I did) and it just made the next crash worse. I only redosed once after the initial dose but felt like such shit the next day. I'm just gonna save the rest for a candy flip with my fiance in the near future. I hope half an avatar blotter (supposedly 180 mic) and 100mg of really good MDMA will be enough for a good time.

 

BUMP.
Dose between 30-35mg of some very good 2ce with some of my best friends. TNS was there of course and dosed maybe 5mg more than me. Other two friends dose about 15 each. Greeat day of laughs, introspection, hikings, laying in hammocks, eating delicious fruit and then TNS throwing the rinds at me......

May write a short TR, if anyone is at all interested, This was a low dose, powerful trip for me. Great stuff.

 

Good times We'll have to do it again soon. That park is an awesome place for tripadelics.

 

30 mg 2ce is NOT a low dose. maybe it is FOR YOU...but i just don't want any newbies to read this and think that 30 mg is a low dose of 2ce.

 

Another savage attack on my psyche yesterday provided by high dose Iprocin.

I felt better prepared for the trip this time however I have much more going on right now than my previous high dose trip, so it was just as, if not more intense than my 50 mgs trip.
It had been a year since Cosmonaut had passed and while we only hung out a few times, it weighed heavily on my mind during the trip.

I listened to a few songs off the new Shpongle album, I enjoyed it for the most part but the organic tribal feel doesn't feel as prominent as on previous albums, and it seemed to favor a more tripped out cinematic feel, still the production is spectacular, and there are many beautiful melodic parts.

 

28 mg 2C-I at a get-together in the mountains. It started raining about 30 minutes after dropping at 7:30 pm and rained until about 3 am. Lying in the tent in the rain, wandering, basically an okay trip with none of the several good, interesting integration days afterward. The best I can say it, is that it was a great gathering and I wasn't quite up to it.

 

Yea, I for sure see what you are saying man, however even for a newbie to 2ce, that would be reasonably manageable, dont you think? It was my first dose and progressed from there very slowly/

 

It depends what they are looking for and what their experience is. Can't go wrong with erowid doses.

My first dose was 15mg and it was damn strong, I would not have wanted to take that in public. I went to a concert later in the *afterglow*. Just realize where you are coming from and that your own personal drug habits may not be representative of most people err on the side of caution, for the sake of the person doing it. After they trip complete ass on 15mg you can regail them with stories of how you take 50mg and play beer pong.

 

Yes. I guess I wasn't thinking of people who have no experience tripping. 30mg may be a intense trip, it is to an experienced tripper in ways.

It all depends on the individual as you said.

And what's up with the beer pong comment at the end, chum....?

 

The only time I dosed 15mg of 2ce, I tripped VERY mildly for 30-60 minutes and then I was basically back to baseline. So, while 30mg may be too much for some people, it's a low-to-moderate dose for others.

 

GB, what was your dose of iprocin (4-ho-dipt) this time?
sounds like an ..interesting trip. i had some more minor things than death that seemed to weigh very heavily on my mind during that LSD trip last weekend. my brother moved to AZ last week. his gf was out there training to be a flight attendant...and she failed the training. they are still gonna live together, and maybe it's a blessing in disguise.

but i got this news on the phone with my brother while tripping. and he told me how she had a really bad panic attack and had to go to the hospital..i was a bit confused and real worried.
so that doesn't really relate to what you said about cosmo...but i think those thought patterns while tripping might be a little bit similar.

nah, i don't think

i don't mean any disrespect btw. i just enjoy the conversation.

i've taken 2ce over 20 times, but never over 20 mg, unless my oneeyeballed dose was larger than i thought, which it very well could have been. point is....in all those trips, the thought has never crossed my mine to increase dose to 30 mg or higher.

i started with 12 mg, and increased to 15....maybe 17....then 20ish
i find 17-19 mg to be plenty for me. maybe it's because 2ce was the chem that ended a long psychedelic break for me. maybe if i were to try 2ce as NOT my 1st RC, i wouldn't have found it so strong. if i were to increase my dose, i'd probably go to 25 mg before going any higher. but it's more likely that i would take ~20 mg if i take 2ce again (i probably will SOME day).

i can handle ~300 ug of LSD easier than i can handle 20 mg 2ce. a lot of it probably has to do with how "dirty" 2ce feels on my body - that doesn't have a great effect on my mindset.

2cb i like to take medium to large doses of (smaller doses don't seem to affect me)
but 2ce...i'm good with 20 mg or less.

most of that is probably repetition for a lot of you. sorry.


if you read about 2ce on BL...there are some members there who REALLY like to trip, but only take "low" doses of 2ce like me.

 

My dose was 40 mgs of Iprocin. It is an interesting trip, Iprocin has a strong cybernetic? feel to it. High dose iprocin feels like my mind goes rogue on me and dishes out a novel level of computational power that doesn't seem to correlate with the enviornment necessarily but is providing 'me' many ephiphanies. The comeup has a romanticism about it which lures me in before it decides to blow my mind. Lots of tremors too.

Having to adjust to any significant news, especially that which you have emotional ties to can be difficult and intense while tripping.

 

just a phrase illustrating that some trippers take very high doses and can do fairly mundane tasks. for example TNS is often here bumping on huge amounts of 2c-e, being pretty coherent. I have had sex on 60mg MXE before, but when I gave 40mg MXE to my friend (his first drug ever), he basically was completely detached from any kind of functioning and sat for hours with a look of shock on his face, drooling. Maybe you hang around people like yourself who take high doses all the time and you forget that people just starting out are nowhere near you in terms of handling this stuff

"For others" . . . who take 15mg+ of xanax to barely feel anything and who have a long and florid history taking hundreds of trips of heroic dose levels your brain is no longer the brain of someone who does not trip tns! you have worked long and hard to fundamentally alter the way your brain processes drugs.

these are the sorts of comments cosmoknot made shortly before he died. he also lost touch with the fact that his dosing pattern had far outpaced anything experienced by 90% of trippers, and simply could not understand that someone would not be able to enjoy a high dose of something + a high dose of 5 other substances and then just "chill" and listen to music lol. I really hope you're not going down this path of denial you two. I'm not saying 60mg of 2c-e is going to kill you but just keep a finger on the pulse of your ideations regarding your use. keep in mind even someone who doses fairly conservatively, like say, porkstock, would absolutely SHOCK a doctor if he told him his habits. the doctor would be worried for porkstock. so comparing your habit to a conservative one, i hope there is a part of you that never looses the "shock"

 

Just wanted to chime in I agree 30mg would be considered strong to most. That dose is definitely not on the lower end unless you like to go hard. Yeah it'd be manageable for people who like to trip but I can see a lot of people getting overwhelmed. Especially considering how people's experiences are so drastically different from each others.

I listened to some of it on my last trip and the day after. I agree it was a little sad to not have so much of a tribal feel but it definitely grooves. I need to listen to it some more though so I can remember more of what it sounds like. Sometimes it's easy for your mind to wander when you're listening to it. It's good though!

edit: oh hayl yess I got post #420