Psychedelic Bump XXII

Indeed. I remember another 2C-E trip on the same porch during an even harder rainstorm. The sound of the rain hitting the tin roof was so loud that it sounded exactly like a chainsaw, and everytime I closed my eyes, I would see bodies being chopped to pieces by chainsaws. It was amazing.

During that same trip, I remember lying on the couch and listening to music in the dark, with my eyes closed, and I was CONVINCED that I had left the house at some point and murdered someone, and that someone was gonna retaliate or that I would be arrested. These thoughts kept looping in my mind, but I always managed to snap out of it. Needless to say, it was a VERY "dark" trip, which is a regular thing when I dose 2C-E, and that's probably one of my favorite things about it:love:

 

Very much hoping to try 2C-E sometime in the near future... you guys make it sound like quite an interesting experience. What would be a good "starting" dose??
I may be getting a few potent tabs and possibly some Molly to take w/ my friend and I when we journey to upstate New York to the mountains for a few days. It's going to be great.. has been a few months since my last psychedelic journey...very stoked!! :sunny:

Today, we are having a big family picnic at my aunt's/uncles place. We're going to be having bbq chicken, clams, shrimp, corn on the cob, brisket, baked potatoes, veggies, good dinner rolls, and Foster's beer on tap...and a variety of liquor :2thumbsup: Should be fun.. going to take frequent dips in the pool in order to stay cool.. it's going to be a scorcher today!

good vibes to everyone.. please lay in the grass with family/friends/pets/lovers... :hippy:

 

^ seems like most people online have agreed 16mg is a good starting dose considering how steep the dosing curve is. I definitely enjoy more..like 25mg but some people react strongly at very low amounts. TNS probably recommends you go straight for 50

 

bump for birthday festivities tonight for a good good friend... dinner out and then Ian Anderson afterwards...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuDkIo_md6Y"]Ian Anderson Gira Thick As A Brick Málaga 08/02/2013 - YouTube

edit: oh wait, and... hope you guys and girls all had a safe, psychedelic holiday, American or not.

atriot:

there's a lot of independence to celebrate this year.

 

i started with 12 mg 2ce, as my first RC ever, and my first psychedelic in years. i felt like it was the perfect level - i could have handled more, but i didn't wish that i had taken more.

i've only shared 2ce with a couple of my friends, and gave them 14 or 15 mg to start. i think that's a pretty good dose to start with.

 

I enjoy more like Popularity, I reccommend 20 mgs 2ce as a good starting dose.

 

Yes, but that recommendation only applies to experienced trippers who are prepared to have their mind turned inside-out. The ~50mg level is where 2C-E begins to show it's true self, imo, and it can seem like a completely different chemical than when taken at lower doses.

 

Mmm, 5-MeO-DALT
Got mah batch in this morning, eyeballed (I know bad idea, fuck it I've done worse shit haha) ~50mg. Parachuted about an hour ago. Starting to come up.. liking this chemical a lot.
May update depending how out there I get.

 

whoa, good to see you around again, quoth the raven.

it's always interesting to me how some people give glowing reviews of chemicals that others write off as sort of duds (5-meo-dalt, and 4-ho-dipt are two that come to mind.)

 

Hi Quoth the Raven, how you been?

5-MeO-DALT supposedly makes a good mixer from what I heard.

 

first of all, that's a good disclaimer about high dose 2ce.

second...i just hope no one pushes it TOO far to find out that the "true nature" of ultra-high-dose-2ce is death.


on another note...i really don't need to add to my RC collection, but it's a tough decision not to when i could add some 4-ho-met, DPT, 5-meo-mipt, and escaline, all for $121

managed to abstain from tripping this fourth of july weekend. i was thinking that some miprocin would have went excellent with the fireworks, and/or the nice weather we are having. but it'll be worth the wait when i drop some L in two weeks on our camping trip.

 

4-aco-dmt tonight. Deciding dosage at the moment, thinking of flipping a coin and letting fate decide between 40mg and 50mg. I've done 40mg before, but that was also with 20mg of 2cb, so I'm struggling between wanting to revisit that dose alone, or, after Mr.Writer's recent 50mg report, I'm kind of wanting to max out.

Concerning 2c-e, I started at 25mg and was underwhelmed since I was going for a deep experience. Went up to 60mg and it was completely immersive and wonderful. But now I can't imagine going that high, I think I would much more enjoy the subtleties of a 20-30mg dose. So if you are experienced with tripping, or more specifically other 2cx phens, anywhere from 20-50mg would be fine, it would depend on what you're looking for and how your body has adjusted over time. Otherwise, go with a 15-20mg dose.

Also, anyone think smoking DMT on 4-ado-dmt is worth it or a good idea? That idea randomly popped in my head. I just have such a little amount of DMT, figured I should do the rest on a trip.

 

you could try 45 mg 4acodmt. i tried that dosage of fumarate one time, and it was quite intense. very close to a "max out" for me personally. probably the highest dose i'll try of that.

20 mg 2ce is anything but subtle to me

i actually find oral 4acodmt kinda like more mellow, longer lasting DMT. the CEVs on my 45 mg dose especially reminded me of a DMT trip. i dunno whether that means they would mix well or not. i'm thinking it wouldn't be terrible.

 

I have smoked ~25-30 mgs DMT on a 4-aco-DMT trip as I was coming down, pretty much brought me back to peak. I enjoyed it but based on the experience, I think Smoking the DMT at the onset of the 4-aco-dmt trip might be more dynamic.

 

How much Methoxetamine do you guys usually dose?

My findings are that 45mg is more of a dose as a "weed potentiator". At 75mg and slowly building up through the night, this is a much better dose but kinda feels like a downer / opiate after about 30 minutes, then I'm snorting more. Tolerance might be starting to kick in too though, just a little bit. I think I'm gonna go to 100mg at once and slowly build up 20-30mg as I deem fit over the rest of the night, then take a break from this shit for a little because it's been a really long week.

 

I usually went with IM Injection.. 60-100 mgs for an initial dose and ~50 mgs redoses.

 

I love how the first dose gets measured to the T and then everything after that is just "kinda approximate". haha. I figure since I already measured everything out to safe dosages (250mg a bag) before-hand, then I will be alright even if I do somehow manage to eyeball too much.

How much more efficient is IM? Would you say has a similar dose to nasal? Erowid says sublingual / oral may be stronger but that does not seem to be my finding nor what science would imply.

 

Probably about up to 25 mgs they are roughly equal potent and then the dose/response curve for IM becomes much more potent. IM comes on more rapidly and hits way smoother than nasal.

 

Damn I can't believe how high you guys dose mxe. 45 is max for me. Not saying I haven't gone over plenty of times but I do not enjoy the totally whacked headspace.

Pork you should add some mxe to your stash! It's a must.

 

The higher doses are deeper for me, I'm surprised you don't enjoy the higher doses.