Psychedelic Bump XXII

Looks like methylone to me. Although it could easily be the real deal. The moonrock I got recently looked about the same. Probably some really good shit though, either way.

I do think that 1cm hits are normal in Europe. The hoffman's I got a while back measure 1cm by 1cm as did the freddy fat cat that I sampled last week.

Big ups to whoever laid those 25i blotters though, for marking them as such.

 

so when you say moonrock, you mean mdma right? or do you think the moonrock that you ate could have been methylone too?

he told me a good dose would be 250 mg. well he said it as "half of the .5"
i was like "isn't that kinda high?" he said "no, most people usually take like .3" meaning his friends of that stuff.


big downs to whoever scribbled out the 25-I with green marker.

just called the dude, told him what his shit was. he's like "i'm on one right now." i advised him not to eat more than one. and told him to take a closer look at that green scribble. it says 25-I underneath it.

 

The moonrock I was referring to was real MDMA.

Maybe he just doses a lot, but 250mg of either is really strong for me. I usually dose around 160-180mg, so I'd probably just split that up into four doses.

 

250 mgs MDMA is the dose I usually go with and based on your responses from your previous 150 mgs MDMA experience and how you respond to moderate doses of like a 2cb, and psychedelic history, I'd recommend to explore the 250 mgs dose range. MDMA excels when taken with others, that can apply to everything from intimate or chill sessions to concert/rave settings. Have some gum for the jaw grinding and water.

If it were methylone or another cathinone, on top of the jaw grinding, the muscle tension can get fairly significant at around 250 mgs. It's less prominent with methylone than like a 4-Mec but something to consider.

 

Flying Fly:
25I was more visually exciting than LSD for me, but it would be hard to say that it made me feel "good". 25C on the other hand was almost like mescaline, very energetic and rolling body high, similar geometric patterns from 25I, but on a whole different level. Doors breathed to double width, kitchen counter towered above my head. The vent in the ceiling wriggled and turned into 3, flew away and then snapped back into place. very weird closed eye imagery like a pink skull. 25C made me feel better than any molly I ever took and turned me into a dance machine.

 

well 480 mg divided by 3 is 160 mg. so i would split it into three doses, not four.


thanks for the advice, GB. so are you saying that if it's possibly methylone or 4-mec or something that i should dose lower? i suppose that makes perfect sense from a harm reduction point of view, but i thought most mdma "wannabes" have higher doses than mdma itself.

i would need to do some research to refresh my memory to be sure though. hence why i ask you.

 

Yeah lol. I was way off with that. Too much hash oil

Considering that I would probably suggest splitting it into 200, 180, and 100 doses, and either use the small one to redose or maybe to mix with something else. I usually fully enjoy 100mg of MDMA, even if that's all I take, and doses as low as 80mg of methylone are surprisingly active and enjoyable for me, although quite short lived.

 

I'd still reccommend 250 mgs of methylone. Methylone is quite a bit less potent than MDMA, I was suggesting the side effects aren't exactly the same. However Mephedrone was about equal potency but it is kinda like a meth bomb, I think its the most potent entactogenic cathinone but I haven't really kept up on those. The apbs are slightly more potent than MDMA Is say but they are MDA analogues.

 

Did anyone here try salvia extract sublingually? I'm thinking of trying it..

 

Yah tried it once at the end of a 6apb roll. I tried 3 grams worth, it was pleasant but really mild. I wet the extract before placing it in my mouth and if you explore it, Id reccommend something to mask the taste because its really bitter.

 

I tried it with a few pinches of 10x sublingually, body felt more sensitive, I was much more receptive to music and I feel calmer now, a bit light headed as well.

I needed a music sensitising substance that I could use almost everyday. Maybe I found it? there is reverse tolerance to salvia right?

How do you feel about taking it before mxe?

 

I'm pretty sure this song is about ayahuasca. lol Awesome song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrCh_yLZU1M"]Wrekonize - Floatin Away - YouTube

 

Erowid lists light sublingual doses at 2 grams which I felt accurate in my trial and even with extract, thats still quite a bit to use near daily as extracts are usually sold by the gram but if you are extremely sensitive to it go for it. The reverse tolerance is more like the opposite of diminishing returns IME. If I smoke on the same day with trips spaced close together, I need equal if not more to reach the same place but I feel on subsequent journeys spaced apart it requires less than the first trips.

I've only smoked Salvia the day after mxe, still feeling slight after affects of the mxe, the Salvia duration was extended to about 30 mins. It qualitatively felt like all Salvia trip.

 

i've only tried mdma one time at 150 mg. i'm pretty confident in that source, but it didn't affect me strongly. i think i would follow gb's advice and take 250 mg next time (or maybe 225 mg b/c i'm porkstock)...and in a more mdma-appropriate setting. ideally i'd like to share a dose with someone, so maybe i'll split it up like 225 (for me), 150 (for my brother or a friend), and 105 mg (for my wife or my brother's gf maybe)

OR
i bet it wouldn't be a terrible idea to candyflip when my brother and i go camping in a couple weekends. don't think i'll do that though, since i'd like to try this "molly" before i give it to my brother, especially if it's in a combo.

it'd also be nice if i could be sure what i have is actual mdma. i guess that's what they make test kits for.

have you guys ever seen methylone or mephedrone in big chunks like that?
is it a good sign that it's solid and chunky. obviously it doesn't rule out another chemical...

 

The methylone I've seen is solid and chunky, and could easily be mistaken for MDMA "moon rocks". I'd test to be sure.

if you have good stuff 250mg MDMA is perfect dose, might be a little strong for people, but I usually put 120mg in my capsules and dose 2. So about 240mg, give or take 5mg with my scale. There seems to be a pretty strong difference between 200mg and 250mg for me. Higher doses than that don't seem to make me roll much harder and do not outweigh the negative body effects for me.

 

i may just take it back to the dude and say "no thanks. your 'lucy' was fuckin 25i-nbome...and you're a jerk if you keep selling it as acid. i'm thinking your molly probably isn't real mdma either, and by the way your weed was sub-par as well."

OR

i could act completely satisfied, and hook this dude up with his next sheet of "acid"
some nice ....nothing on white blotter paper :devil:

 

I have not seen either of them in chunks like that but I only used methylone and mephedrone when they were legal in the UK and US.

I had more methylone which had some variability in appearance but most of it looked along the lines of this...

 

Summer nights always bring me fantastic vibes :sunny:

much love to you all!

 

Methylone almost always looks just like that. I've had chunky rock type mephedrone and it didn't look anything like that. It was sort of barely crystalline, and broke up to powder easily instead of chunks the way methylone does. I'd be pretty confident that it's not that or 4-mec in that picture.

I would definitely keep it. If you don't have a supply for any molly, some pure methylone is nothing to pass up. I would probably give back the 25i though, but that's just me.

 

If you are interested in molly, then you should get a test kit!