Psychedelic Bump XVIII

I can't even imagine that lol.

Thismoment, I am jealous, that sounds incredible.

 

Bump for low dose Salvia Divinorum, going on recommendation of Felix4life.

 

How did it go? Was it 5x?

 

It was 15x, so literally just a few pinches of extract leaves. It was pleasant, I had an initial sense of trepidation but that may have been muscle memory from previous Salvia trips and it quickly gave way to a pleasant headspace and mood lift, not really a sense of intoxication or Salvia Gravity but even at this low of a dose there was a slight sense of bewilderment. I listened to some music and it sounded enhanced and not really much in the way of visual distortions but a softening of vision similar to cannabis.

I see value in using it such a way but it's probably something I won't explore much, it kind of got me eager to try sublingual/buccal Salvia journey which I've been planning for awhile but I think I'm going to wait until i get either 6apb or MDMA for that journey as I find the empathogen/Salvia combo trip amazing when it's smoked and I think having a slower and longer Salvia trip could really be something else.

 

40 mg allylescaline 5.5 hours ago.

 

bump for talking about psychedelics for like 2 hours with a couple of my friends. i'd like to maybe introduce them to 4acodmt, or at least let the guy sample the potent LSD hits which i still have a small number of. the girl might not like a strong LSD trip. they both like molly a lot.

and...

the bit i read on BL made it sound like a dud, or at least needs a high dose.

 

I'm thinking about 2C-E. Also, there's a little forest get-together (3 nights) ending two days before we leave, and who knows what that might bring.

 

Damn I didn't even think of empathogen/Salvia combo, that is something I am putting on my priority list if I ever comeby MDMA.

Glad to to see you had a decent time. I'm about to light up 5x :mickey:

 

bump for 20mg 2cb yesterday, awesome time :sunny:

 

Nice

Waiting for a sunny day then time for some aMT hiking.

 

40 mg was very active for 10 hours.

 

more words please

 

yes. more words

i can't believe 20 mg does much of anything to you. i did to my girlfriend, but she has only tripped a handful of times. 26 mg was ++ at best. i really don't like the shulgin rating scale. seems like there should be a plus two and a half.

i'm tempted to dose tonight or tomorrow, since i'm not gonna go to work. but i'll be taking some LSD in about a week, so i probably should refrain

 

Saying it a year ago was ironic but really tho You're a hardhead Porkstock.

 

saying what a year ago was ironic?

i can agree that i'm probably a hard-head when it comes to 2cb. but not with 2ce. maybe i'm just really bad at noticing rolling type effects?

you've said that 2cb at ~25 mg is more of an entactogen, right? and at ~30 mg or so becomes more of a psychedelic? to me, the "rolling" part of it is just very subtle, and i don't really know what i'm looking for or know how best to use that state of mind.

the next time i use 2ce or 2cb, might be a small amount in combination with 4aces. but more likely, i'll just get more experience with 4aces alone. i've tried it a total of 4 times, but only one of those was a really strong trip. guess i'm a hardhead with that one too. or have at least became one after tripping just about every month for 3 and a half years

 

I also had 4-aco-dmt in mind as well as you have said you need a fairly high dose for that to really feel it.

I get visual effects from 25 mgs 2cb but it is more of an entactogenic experience. Hallucinogen is not necessarily synonymous with psychedelic for me, 2cb does become more hallucinogenic after 30 mgs but I don't necessarily find the headspace much different. I haven't explored really high doses with it yet tho.

I don't find 2cb produces quite the rushing immeadiacy type of rolling affects as Mdma, I find it's 'rolling' effects subtler as well, its a nice change of pace and not as much of a physical investment like Mdma.

 

the thing with lower doses of 4acodmt and 2cb (below about 30 mg for each) is that i just don't find them to produce an immersive trip. i guess that's what a ++ means, you could choose to mostly ignore the effects, or try to nurture it into a trip, but it's not as strong as a +++, a more immersive trip. ~45 mg of each produces full on psychedelic experience for me.

with things like LSD, i've hit the +++ mark a lot sooner in my trials i think. i'm sure there are doses of 2ce and L that would produce a non-immersive trip, but i haven't really tried them save for a few weak hits of L at times

 

I think this is where you confusion comes from and your need for a "++.5". ++ means if you want you can choose to function in some respect with a sober mind, it's not "ignoring the effects". There is no way on earth you are ignoring the effects of 20mg 2c-b. You can however work THROUGH them to accomplish some tasks, like making a meal perhaps. On +++ there is no longer an option to work through the effects.

Volupta couldn't BELIEVE that we had gone camping on this same dose of 2cb, it was so strong. Especially during the comeup, at times it bordered on +++. 20mg is my standard incremental dosage for 2cb. It's light enough that you can do things like build a fire and make a meal, but strong enough that you'll be doubled over in laughter doing it or getting lost in the gently moving visuals, or the deeper convoluted thought patterns.

And I've been saying it for years dude . . . you are a major hardhead you need big doses of tryptamines, phens, MDxx . . . Pork you didn't feel 120mg of pure MDMA. This is not insignificant. This is not set and setting. This is something biochemical. This is a physical property of your neural apparatus . This is why its always frustrating to see you incrementally tiptoe your way out of the wading area when you are ready and belong in the deep end of the pool. You say 2c-e hits you hard but I don't think you know what hitting hard with 2ce is, you've never done 40, 50, 60mg. 15mg 2c-e "hit me hard" too but compared to 60mg, well, there's not much to compare :indian_chief:

guerr you are right about the physical investment, the comedown is so wonderful, the trip just evaporates away with basically no residual stimulation, and the next day I have no noticeable signs that I tripped yesterday.

 

i wish 20 mg 2cb did something to me. when my fiance took that dose, she was tripping strongly, and convinced that i gave her acid.

when i took 26 mg at that concert...i definitely could have ignored the effects. instead, i hit a joint a few times, and tried to let whatever might happen just flow, but it didn't amount to all that much.
when i took 27.5 mg on a cruise ship, i basically had no psychedelic effects. my whole family was getting mildy seasick that day, so that's what i experienced instead. when i decided to take 26 mg for the concert it was a purposefully low dose, and i had hoped that the time on the ship was a fluke.


i don't think i'll ever take more than 30 mg 2ce. stuff is too hard on my body, i think i'm pretty much "over" 2ce and 2cb. they just don't make me feel very well after the trip. with 2cb, 35 mg or more has given me a headache and signs of tripping the previous night. doses of less than 30 mg have produced little sign of tripping at all. ...30 mg is a good level.


there was ONE time that i eyeballed a 20 mg dose of 2ce, based on the size of a previously weighed 20 mg. that was one of my hardest trips on the substance for sure, and the ONLY time in my life that i thought "now you've done it. you're never gonna be normal again."

and i believe it was 150 mg of mdma that i did not feel (very much)

i guess i will finally accept it, writer. my name is porkstock41...and i'm a hardhead.

 

aaahh I want to try 2c-b