Psychedelic Bump XVIII

The 3-5 hour Mark of the acid trip is a good window IME and from what I've read for a candyflip.


That way you can experience some LSD by itself, ride your trip a bit, experience the simultaneous peaks and then have it flip more into MDMA effects. I find it really dynamic this way, almost like 3 distinct phases not to mention all the little intricancies in between.

It's primarily a sensorial trip, a little bit of a la la land trip for me as short term memory is significantly affected. But its a pretty powerful, unique, trip and I recall you enjoyed shrooms + Mdma so thought I'd mention it.

 

Hey yeah GM Dilaudid is indeed very weak. I have zero opiate tolerance and extremely infrequent use and I blew through a whole bunch of em in a few days. Definitely wasted unless you bang em, which i'll never do. hell 10mg oxy orally puts me out like a light, and I like keeping it that way.

Microdosing MDMA would be a waste of mdma . . . definitely gotta have the full floodgate experience, ~200mg

 

SOS has been offline for last 2 days, anyone know whatsup?

 

so is 2cb generally considered the easiest 2cx on the body? i'm talking about AFTER effects here. 2ce and 2cb have both always given me a headache on the comedown (it's NOT dehydration) and 2ce gives me "gut-rot."

seems like 2cb is supposed to be the most gentle, but i was wondering if anyone has found a 2cx that gives them NO negative physical after effects.

what about 25-i-nbome or 25-c-nbome?

 

I haven't really gotten many after effects from 2cb so I don't know if you'll respond in a similar way but other 2cx's I haven't got many after effects from are 2cc and 2ct2. 2ct2 has some negative physical effects during the peak tho, 2cc is pretty easy on the body and a cool trip but I'm not quite as enamored with it as I am 2cb.

When I took 25I at 2mgs, I didn't have a headache but I felt as fried if not more than I do from LSD coming down.

 

thanks, gb. sounds about right from what i've read about 2cc (easy on the body, but not as great of a trip as other 2cxs). that's news to me about 2ct2 though. have you also tried 2ct7?

being "fried" on the comedown or even the day after, i don't really mind that much. i mean, if i've just done a strong psychedelic, i can expect to be a little scatter-brained. so mental after effects i can deal with. i really dislike the physical side effects that just make me think that this stuff CAN'T be good for my body.

i suppose if i get a headache from mushrooms, or muscle tightness from LSD, i attribute it to my physical activity while tripping, or maybe a simple effect of the drug, but not a very harmful effect. with 2ce and 2cb, if i get a headache, i just start thinking about what it might actually be doing...
the gut rot, and the "kidney pain" are more worrisome than the headache though. the kidney pain could actually just be tightness in my lower back. lots of stuff can give you a headache. also, 2ce seems to make me piss a LOT...again, probably not so harmful.

how was 25i on the stomach? again, i don't mean nausea after dosing or while coming up, i mean a tight uncomfortable feeling in your stomach on the comedown. that's what i get from 2ce.

 

Yah I don't know Porkstock, maybe just some chemical bias there. I've questioned whether most psychedelics might be bad for me at one point or another. I've done 2ct7 once at 50 mgs, quality trip but definitely had a comedown and scatter brain.


25I was fairly benign, comparable to acid.

 

Just took a cap of mescaline. We'll see what happens.

 

do you know what the weight was?

gb, of course mushrooms and L have their history of use to ease my concerns, whereas 2ce really doesn't. 25i is even worse in the respect, so i would predict that if it even gave me the slightest a negative effects, i would find something to worry about. the problem could also be that statements like i just made show that i have some sort of bias or pre-conceptions, so maybe i get a headache and gut rot and feel generally crappy after 2ce because i expect to. but i think it's not 100% attributed to that

 

I meant to weigh it before I took it, but I just forgot. It looked like 200-300mg.

 

I understand, as physically benign as 25I-nbome felt... I am more leery about it than LSD, mostly because of the history the latter has. I probably even feel more comfortable with the 2cx's, even though some of them have more overt negative physical effects because they are going on a couple decades now of widespread use. I have certainly felt the gut rot effects of 2ce and can understand how it could be of concern, but I recall distinct moments of feeling 'poisoned' with my initial trip with mushrooms and kind of having similar concerns.

I'm interested in how you view 4-aco-dmt among 2cb and 2ce with these concerns, after witnessing your friends mini seizures and I believe you have mentioned your brother and maybe yourself having headaches/crashes?

 

THREE DAYS until I sally into the wilderness.

I got conflicting info on whether mescaline sulfate should be soluble in certain things. Humphrey Osmond claims that it is totally insoluble in "alcohol" (i can only assume he means ethanol since he didn't qualify the term alcohol; perhaps he meant all alcohols), whereas the Oxford chemistry website claims mescaline sulfate is soluble in ethanol. The only home-test I trust, then, is the crystallization test. I dissolved ~150mg in a small amount of water and am waiting for it to evaporate and see what sort of crystals remain.

 

Safe travels to you Raga, best wishes for an excellent time.

 

No effects from mescaline. Oh well.

 

^ Bummer about your mescaline.


I found Lewis Carol's: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland on my phone Good read so far and may be interesting to come back to one of these pecuilar evenings.

 

right! maybe the 2ce gut rot means nothing harmful, just like the "poisoned" feeling from mushrooms. but as you know, there is much uncertainty.

4-aco-dmt is leagues ahead of 2ce/b in my opinion. my brother had a mental crash from it, but like i said before, that could be expected from a strong psychedelic trip. i only got the slightest of headache on the comedown of just one 4acodmt trip (my largest dose, 45 mg), probably comparable to a slight headache i've gotten from LSD. these are nothing compared to the headaches i get from 2ce and -b.

my friend's seizure episode was likely from drinking way to much in combination with the 4aces.

4acodmt feels as "clean" as or maybe even cleaner than LSD. it's become a close 2nd to my favorite psychedelic.

 

after dosing on friday, my sinuses became very uncomfortably stuffed up... i assumed that it was just my allergies, but my allergies didn't get that bad the next couple of days so now i'm wondering if it was in part caused by the LSD? has anyone else ever experience this?

most likely it was just a bad allergy day, but I'm curious if the acid could have contributed.

 

the night i took 2ce i got super stuffed up too. i was smoking a decent amount of weed and was getting dry mouth worse than usual. i attributed it mostly to the weed. don't recall getting that from LSD myself...but i've gotten some weird sensations

 

Don't know if you guys have seen this, but it's an interview with a (DEA?) agent who busts an LSD lab and ends up accidentally getting dosed with what he claims to be "1000 hits": (Go to 16min 10sec for this part)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP4OF35sTzI

I gotta say though, I'm calling BS on his 1000 hits claim. Assuming a thumbprint is approximately 30mg of crystal, or the equivalent of 3 sheets, then this guy would be dosing over 3 times the dose of a thumbprint.

From what I've read about thumbprints, you are pretty incapacitated after maybe 5-10 minutes post dosing. This guy claims that he was "laughing and telling his partner that he wouldn't be driving if he could see what he was seeing" when they're on their way to the hospital.

Hell, even 10 minutes into 12 tabs of acid I don't think that was an option anymore, haha.

 

Man I'm looking forward to hearing all about that when you get back!